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To: Squantos
All cool ideas. Modern high tech coatings should be used.

We (ST2) were given Steyer AUGs to shoot about 1981 by the reps, and took them to the ranges at A.P. Hill. (If anybody shot a Steyr AUG before 1982, please tell me!) Anyway, at that time the factory tech reps told us that the gun was meant to be fired by conscripts with minimal training. That's why the 1.5 optical scope with the circle reticle. ("If a man fits like this" etc) Anyway, at that time the rep said they were planning to use throw away magazines, loaded at the factory. They were honey-colored translucent plastic even way back then, but not throw away. I don't know if anybody is issuing throwaway preloaded mags yet, but it makes sense to me.

76 posted on 09/26/2003 9:43:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I think some of the issues "used" to be spring set. Thus in 20 rounders we used 18 as the steel in the mag lips bent with a max 20. New metalurgy or phenolics may be better. My experience with plastic mags such as the AUG's you speak of was such that when abraded with sand or mud they got "fuzzy" and didn't fit the mag well. The C6 rifle that the Canuks used had plastic mags and they tried to horse trade us out of the aluminum mags we had . They didn't like em either in the big sand box.

I would like to see the magazine concept approached in a different way. The FP-90 mags are possible by top loading, and ammo carried sideways as in the 5n7 rounds they use. A bull pup design with the ammo mag on top acting as a cheek weld versus the mag in the bottom might also be looked at.

Bull pups have their place IMHO. They deserve a better arraingment/design but the concept is valid I believe.

Stay Safe !

77 posted on 09/26/2003 9:53:47 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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