Are All Education Classes Liberal?

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[Cathryn Crawford]

I am taking my first and only education class this semester at the University of Texas. I've taken some liberal courses, but this one by far exceeds any previous. Is this standard?

All emphasis seems to be on multicultural education, the horror of vouchers, and the need for schools to be parents.

[bluebunny]

I graduated from UT-Austin 2 years ago. I really didn't encounter much leftist stuff b/c I was a biology major. The most liberal was the intro psychology and most definitely my Greek literature professor. The Greek Lit professor was very leftist and weird. He made us read some book called the Satyricon(?) with all kinds of perverse sexual stuff in it. I just skimmed it enough to pass. I didn't want to read that gay crap.

[Sir Gawain]

On Campus: Liberal Faculty vs. Conservative Students

[coydog]

Awww... you could have done a bang-up term paper comparing the account of dinner at Trimalchio's with today's equally tacky and useless noveau riche and media personalities. I had a blast reading that part.

[Clara Lou]

I got my degree at TAMU, then, years later, did my teacher's certification through Baylor. The educations classes were just awful-- largely useless, but they were not liberal in any way, shape, or form. My only problem was that the idiot teaching the reading-related courses was still on the "whole language" toot. I had to clamp my hand over my mouth to control myself.

[Semi Civil Servant]

Think 1917 Russia. All the naive, slobbery, sentimental sloganeering regarding the beauty of Marxism -- "Declaration of the Rights of the Toilng and Exploited Peoples" -- before Stalin, before the mass murders, before Gulag, before the enslavement of Eastern Europe. Put it all in a dunce cap with a smiley face on top and you have the essence of teacher colleges and education departments in today's America.

Uniformly? Almost.

How did it get this way? Read "The Graves of Academe" http://www.sourcetext.com/grammarian/graves-of-academe/ by the late Richard Mitchell. This is the one book you must read to understand education in America.

The educationists in this country are a menace.

[ThanhPhero]

Are All Education Classes Liberal?

Yes.

[ChemistCat]

The liberals won if conservatives have to drop out of the education program.

They get to keep the jobs. They get to keep the universities. And best of all, they get to keep the students.

The solution? Infiltrate, subvert, and annhilate.

Conservatives have to become teachers--no matter what, or we lose.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

That was funny!

[x]

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, teach education." -- Modern American Proverb.

Education classes are generally liberal and have been since the heyday of John Dewey and Teachers' College at Columbia University in the mid-20th century. Education programs are notorious for loading students down with dubious educational "theory" and ignoring both the practical aspects of teaching, and the subjects that are supposed to be taught.

Part of the problem with education departments and schools is that everybody has to have those academic credentials (Masters or Doctorate). Consequently everyone is doing writing and "research" that's often of little use or significance, rather than prove themselves through actually teaching things. If you think back on your schooling, you may be able to find teachers who concentrated more on getting the next credential, rather than on their students or their understanding of their ostensible fields of expertise.

Another problem is that virtually everyone in education departments is focused on "living off" the state in one way or another. Creating the Ed.D degree was probably a great mistake. Doctors of Education tend to feel that their talents aren't rewarded by taxpayers, and this leads to dreams of revenging oneself on society or springboarding "social change" as a way of repairing one's own hurt self-esteem and overcoming feelings of uselessness.

[Zipporah]

One word answer~ YES

[Riverman94610]

I have no problem educating "the children of degenerates".My problem comes when the chidren THEMSELVES are degenerates,making comments like"my mother wants me to give her oral"and,refering to the eight year old Forrest Gump,student says"he needs to hit that little bitch"-"hit"in this case meaning to have sex with.
My credentialing program at a local Bay Area college was generally"liberal humanist"in theme and emphasis.This was back in 1971 when the laxness in standards was not quite as ubiquitous as it is today.I only work part time in the schools-occasional sub work-and most of the students,while sadly deficient academically,are usually fairly easy to deal with.Yet some are truly"off the hook",as the two above examples should suffice.
I am seen as"that weird white guy"by most of my inner city kids.But I am not one to be intimidated and tell it like it is.I refuse to be Gorelike and fear criticising certain pathological behavior in the hood.I say straight up,'It ain't white folks killing all those black folks,its hose little gangstas who don't give an ish about human lives.But thats what happens when you put money over people,the whole community suffers.".
One note on some people's fear that the students are deluged with Leftist propaganda.Sometimes I wish the students would get passionate about ANY political issues!The vast majority are only about the "bling bling"and will the Raiders win Sunday.I would faint head over heels if a student could intelligently discuss Mao or Ayn Rand-SOMETHING besides the latest 50 Cent video!

[wizardoz]

All emphasis seems to be on multicultural education, the horror of vouchers, and the need for schools to be parents.

Oh, sweetie, that's nothin'. Wait till you start reading Paulo Freire, who quotes Mao and Che Guevara with great admiration. I particularly loved how he designates any situation in which person A "exploits" person B as "violence." And since any capitalist venture is "exploitive," then any violent retribution isn't violence, it's "resistance." And "resistance" is how the "oppressed" show "love" and "free" the "oppressors" who are also "trapped" in the "exploitative" relationship. You read enough of this crap and pretty soon you see how people justify Palestinians shooting a 4 year old Jewish girl in the head. Because she's an oppressor! And they love her!

Have fun!

[wizardoz]

One of her problems is that she considers herself to be so Europeanized.

Yes, they all start sentences with "In SWEDEN, they are so much more progressive...."

[geedee]

I'm rather hesitant about giving a blanket answer because I have a niece going to school in Lubbock and she says two of her Education-type classes are rather conservative and one is led by a flaming-liberal.

Since you're going to school in Austin -- the San Francisco of the MidWest -- the easy money says you'll be led by Commie-kazis.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Actually, I'm not in Austin - I'm at the second-biggest UT campus.

[geedee]

Ahhhhh . . . LOL . . . there's hope yet. I was wondering how you were going to school in Austin and writing for the particular newspaper you told me about the other day.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Yeah - the logistics don't work out. LOL

[ClaireSolt]

Ditto the Graves of Academe recommendation. Why is someone from Ecuador and educated in Europe teaching in the ed school in TX? Don't we have enough trouble running our schools as it is?

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