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To: nickcarraway
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women.
16 posted on 09/24/2003 3:23:16 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women.

Speak for yourself...I see this as a good thing. Women have plenty of other ways to serve.

Men and women both have roles within the Church - and in society, for that matter. They're different. That's not a bad thing.

21 posted on 09/24/2003 3:25:59 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Lorianne
And this bothers you, why?
24 posted on 09/24/2003 3:26:45 PM PDT by fml
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women.

Any woman who is "alienated" by an all-male acolytate is equally alienated by an all-male priesthood.

If certain women believe that Church is meant as an exercise in affirmative action identity politics, then they were never Catholics in the first place.

No woman in my family is fooled by leftist self-worship masquerading as Catholic worship.

33 posted on 09/24/2003 3:29:34 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests

because the radical feminazi lesbians who have infiltrated the diocesan bureaucracies don't want new priests ... unless those priests happen to be radical feminazi lesbians. (See Church of England for details on how that works out.)

and they are working very hard to

reestablish fidelity to the Faith handed down to us from the Apostles. In those areas where the Church is most Traditional and orthodox, it has no trouble recruiting young, holy, orthodox men to be priests.

I guess it only looks suicidal to the abyssmally ignorant.

48 posted on 09/24/2003 3:37:24 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: Lorianne
What evidence do you have that they are working to alienate this group? Specifically for the reasons you say.

For what it's worth, I have only heard women complain about altar girls. I only know women who have switched churches for this reason. Do you know the reasons why they may have certain functions for women and certain functions for men?

Do you likewise believe that Judaism is a suicidal religion, because there are certain areas/functions restricted to men for the express reason that they believe women are more inherently spiritual, so their is a necessity to enrich the men?

59 posted on 09/24/2003 3:44:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women.

I have some questions for you in this event:

Since you have identified that Catholicism has a problem attracting men, should they decide to abandon men and focus on women? Would that strategy benefit women or be detrimental to women?

Not just in Catholicism, but other Christian denominations their is often the problem that women are the largest group of active members? Has this benefited these women? Have you ever known women who complain about this very fact?

65 posted on 09/24/2003 3:47:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women

You have identified that women are the largest groupof active members among Catholics. Yet until recently, there were no altar girls. If altar girls were a deciding factor in alienating women, then why have women been the largest group of active members throughout the Church history?

76 posted on 09/24/2003 3:54:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lorianne
This in no way alienates me....just one Catholic woman's opinion.

I had along conversation with my brother last night about a similar topic. We all know the rules of the organizations we join be it Church, school etc. Barring any obvious evil,if we don't like the rules it isn't fair to those who do buy into them to insist on changing them just because you (the universal you) don't like them. The option is always there for you to find a group that fits.
79 posted on 09/24/2003 3:56:20 PM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (As my seven year old says.....George Bush Rocks!!!!)
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To: Lorianne
"They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women."

No, they are working very hard to get us, as a church, back to where we should be. I for one, have never liked the idea of altar girls. And, yes, I am a woman. There are many, many other opportunities in our church for women to serve.

256 posted on 09/25/2003 3:50:17 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Lorianne
They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women.

There are plenty of churches out there which govern themselves by majority vote and whose guiding principle is willing surrender to the zeitgeist instead of obedience to the Gospel.

I'm sure the Episcopalians, for instance, would welcome those alienated women, whose real religion is feminism, not Christianity, with open arms. Heaven knows the rest of their membership is evaporating into thin air.

296 posted on 09/25/2003 10:23:26 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Lorianne
"They don't have enough priests and they are working very hard to alienate their largest group of active members, women."

There are over 400,000 Catholic preists in the world, my dear. More than enough. Once the Vatican restores traditions and conservatism, rids the Church of feminism and queers, (which it is now trying to do), men will return to the priesthood in droves. Though women are "active", as you say, they are "active" in subverting the Church's traditions more than helping it in any way.

346 posted on 09/26/2003 1:15:59 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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