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No WMD in Iraq, source claims
BBC ^ | 9/24/03

Posted on 09/24/2003 12:11:02 PM PDT by stupidUN

This I just found on BBC. We all know they can't be trusted but it is worth reading. I know they are wrong, besides if not there then Syria.

No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq by the group looking for them, according to a Bush administration source who has spoken to the BBC. This will be the conclusion of the Iraq Survey Group's interim report, the source told the presenter of BBC television's Daily Politics show, Andrew Neil.

Downing Street branded the story "speculation about an unfinished draft of an interim report".

Mr Neil said the draft report - which the source said is due to be published next month - concludes it is highly unlikely that weapons of mass destruction were shipped out of the country to places like Syria before the US-led war on Iraq.

The bottom line is that the team has found no weapons of mass destruction

Andrew Neil Daily Politics

Analysis: High stakes for Blair

It will also claim Saddam Hussein mounted a huge programme to deceive and hinder the work of UN weapons inspectors, he said.

Mr Neil said, according to the source, the report will say its inspectors have not even unearthed "minute amounts of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons material".

They have also not uncovered any laboratories involved in deploying weapons of mass destruction and no delivery systems for the weapons.

But, Mr Neil added, the report would publish computer programmes, files, pictures and paperwork which it says shows that Saddam Hussein's regime was attempting to develop a weapons of mass destruction programme.

CIA spokesman Bill Harlow told the Reuters news agency he expected the report would "reach no firm conclusions, nor will it rule anything in or out".

Reuters also reported a senior US official saying the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) was expected to report finding "documentary evidence" that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons programmes.

"Whether they will find or disclose anything on the weapons themselves, I doubt," said the official.

'Savage blow'

UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said: "This is speculation on an as yet unpublished report.

"I await the report eagerly from Mr Kay (head of the survey group), as does the international community."

Mr Straw argued the whole international community had agreed Iraq's weapons programmes had posed - the issue had been what to do about it.

Mr Neil said the report is being finalised and could undergo changes People did not need the ISG report for evidence of that threat, he said. It was already shown in volumes of reports from UN inspectors.

A Number 10 spokesman said "we don't have this text", but asked if the prime minister had seem the report, remarked: "We are not going into details of process."

Mr Neil, a former editor of the Sunday Times, stressed the Daily Politics had not seen the draft report, and was reporting what a single source had said its findings were likely to be.

He said the report was still to be finalised and could undergo some changes, but the source had been told the content of some key passages which are not expected to be substantively altered.

Former Conservative cabinet minister Michael Portillo said if these details of the report were true, it would be a "savage blow" to the prime minister.

'Fake facilities'

The inspectors have uncovered no evidence that any weapons were actually built in the immediate years before the war, the leak of the report suggests.

It is alleged that Saddam's programme of deception involved fake facilities and infrastructure to deceive and hinder the work of UN weapons inspectors.

The group may well conclude that Iraq had an elaborate and secret effort to maintain elements of its weapons programmes - in 'suspended animation' if you like

Jonathan Marcus BBC defence correspondent

Read his full analysis on search

Documents have been uncovered showing weapons facilities were concealed as commercial buildings, the report is likely to say.

The Iraq Survey Group took over the job of finding WMD from the US military in June.

The survey group, led by David Kay, a former UN weapons inspector and now a special adviser to the CIA, is a largely US operation, although it includes some British and Australian staff.

Its 1,400 personnel are made up of scientists, military and intelligence experts and its work is shrouded in secrecy.

Its focus is intelligence, using documents and interviews with Iraqi scientists to build up a picture of the secret world of Iraq's weapons programmes.

The survey group has been under a good deal of pressure to prove the Bush administration's case that Iraq's weapons posed a significant threat.

Gary Samor, of the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, recently told the BBC that UN inspection teams should have been sent back into Iraq as there would be much scepticism about the ISG's findings.


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1 posted on 09/24/2003 12:11:03 PM PDT by stupidUN
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To: stupidUN
The Bush administration would give information to the BBC????????
2 posted on 09/24/2003 12:12:19 PM PDT by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: stupidUN
The PRELIMINARY report was "inconclusive". The word is that they will come out and say they have evidence that Saddam was working on WMDs, but they can't find evidence of actual WMDs. The BBC is NOT to be trusted.
3 posted on 09/24/2003 12:12:40 PM PDT by DittoJed2 (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.- Patrick Henry)
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To: stupidUN
concludes it is highly unlikely that weapons of mass destruction were shipped out of the country to places like Syria before the US-led war on Iraq.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one!

4 posted on 09/24/2003 12:13:54 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: stupidUN
More silly speculation and inuendo by the British left that already drove one man to suicide.
5 posted on 09/24/2003 12:13:56 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: stupidUN
Geez, I can't believe Jacques Chirac, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Kofi Annan, Gerhard Schroeder, the US Congress, and the entire UN Security Council were all wrong about Iraq's weapons of mass distruction.

Bush shouldn't have listened to them.

6 posted on 09/24/2003 12:14:44 PM PDT by dead (All that is not mandatory is prohibited.)
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To: stupidUN
concludes it is highly unlikely that weapons of mass destruction were shipped out of the country to places like Syria before the US-led war on Iraq.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one!

7 posted on 09/24/2003 12:14:49 PM PDT by Terriergal ("multipass!")
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To: stupidUN
Welcome to Free Republic.

The bottom line is that the team has found no weapons of mass destruction.

They haven't found Saddam, either.

8 posted on 09/24/2003 12:15:54 PM PDT by Eala (Victimisation is the last refuge of a leftie (scoundrel).)
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To: stupidUN
More No WMD in Iraq
9 posted on 09/24/2003 12:16:33 PM PDT by Consort
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To: DittoJed2
I heard a similar report on BOR last night from Col. Hunt. I think we are going to be terribly let down by the lack of WMD find, and this will be a hammer for the liberals for a LONG time.
10 posted on 09/24/2003 12:16:57 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: stupidUN
colonel hunt was on oreilly last night, he said that the Kay report will only show patterns of deception regarding the stuff. no material is anywhere to be found (in iraq at least). so I don't think we are going to get any mileage regarding the Kay report, in fact the Dems and the media will likely spin it to their advantage.
11 posted on 09/24/2003 12:17:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: stupidUN
ABC is reporting the same junk
12 posted on 09/24/2003 12:18:33 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: dead
You said it.

If this report turns out to be generally accurate, its fair to say that the Bush team has launched a trial balloon in the foreign press to watch the response and craft their strategy for US politics.

I suspect, as the Clinton's did, the Bush team will try to lower expectations so maybe there will be a nugget or two, and this report is too pessimistic, but that appears to be the strategy at play.
13 posted on 09/24/2003 12:19:09 PM PDT by JohnGalt (More Todd Beamers, Fewer Ivy Leaguers)
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To: stupidUN
read my lips

I dont care about weapons of mass destruction! I dont care if we never find them. I will only care when we stop pissing liberals off and the get off without us!
14 posted on 09/24/2003 12:19:20 PM PDT by hapy
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To: Eala
"They haven't found Saddam, either."

Saddam never existed. I guess.

Anyway, I'm waiting again for the "Iraqi scientists deny weapons" story portrayed as "proof" there were no such weapons. As if these "scientists" would implicate themselves to crimes against humanity and human experimentations of the weapons.

15 posted on 09/24/2003 12:22:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Eala
They haven't found Saddam, either.

Clearly, he never existed.

16 posted on 09/24/2003 12:22:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: oceanview
I stopped watching O'Reilly because he harps on no WMD's every single day; like that is the only reason we went into Iraq. Have you noticed that for every Conservative on the show, he has about three LIEberals. Hannity is getting to be the same (both radio and tv). On Monday he had nothing but LIEberals on the entire show.
17 posted on 09/24/2003 12:26:25 PM PDT by anoldafvet (Democrats: Making the world safe for terrorists one lie at a time.)
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To: JohnGalt
The "WMDs were never there" chorus still has that little nagging problem of the corpses of the gassed Kurds that once littered Iraqis streets.

Maybe they all just spontaneously died of natural causes in each others arms.

Is that what you believe?

Or maybe Iraq did in fact have them, and Saddam willingly destroyed them all. If he had made any effort to confirm that action, he might have remained in power to this day. And you and France could have celebrated the continuing torture, rape and murder of the thousands of Iraqi citizens who have since escaped that fate.

18 posted on 09/24/2003 12:29:50 PM PDT by dead (All that is not mandatory is prohibited.)
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To: stupidUN
It will also claim Saddam Hussein mounted a huge programme to deceive and hinder the work of UN weapons inspectors, he said.

Begs the question: To hinder them from finding what, exactly?

19 posted on 09/24/2003 12:30:20 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort (Never attribute to malice what can satisfactorily be explained by stupidity.)
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To: anoldafvet
"I stopped watching O'Reilly because he harps on no WMD's every single day; like that is the only reason we went into Iraq."

I stopped watching Bush speeches after january because he was doing something similar. (harping on iraq WMD every day)

the real reason (Imho) that we went in is too politically incorrect for anyone to admit, but it is apparently accomplished.
20 posted on 09/24/2003 12:41:21 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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