Posted on 09/24/2003 8:47:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp
11:29AM Federal court rules against FTC no-call list by William L. Watts
WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- A federal judge in Oklahoma City ruled that the Federal Trade Commission didn't have authority to implement a popular do-not-call list shielding consumers from telemarketing calls, the Direct Marketing Association said. The court reportedly found that statutory jurisdiction for such a list rested with the Federal Communications Commission rather than the FTC. The DMA, a trade group representing telemarketers, brought the suit. In a statement, the organization said it "acknowledges the wishes of millions of U.S. consumers who have expressed their preferences not to receive" telemarketing solicitations. The DMA said it would work with the FTC and the FCC to "evaluate the practical implications" of the judge's decision, which was issued Tuesday.
And do not send e-mail with a false return address.
That's not advertising--that's denial-of-service.
If it were once or twice, it would be different. I have caller ID and do not pick up anything labled unavailable. However, Mr. Unavailable calls me 20-30 times a day.
Now, if you are eating, putting you kids to bed, taking a shower, taking a nap, home with a migraine, anything, do you want to spend your time answering that many phone calls?
I do technical support for an e-commerce web site during the day. I do not want to have to deal with that when I get home.
Becki
MySQL does. Use ODBC to do an SQL query against the database from Excel or Access. A successful lookup means it is in the DNC list, a failed lookup means it isn't.
However, your inability or unwillingness to solve the problem doesn't mean that the rest of the world should tolerate your intrusion into their lives.
The free enterprise system was not built on hundreds of companies coming to your home. It was built on you making your choice of hundreds of companies offering a product.
A true free enterprise system would have people opting in for certain calls.
Becki
Nope. As far as I'm concerned, if they were that damn interested in my business, they'd keep in touch with me within a reasonable time frame. And if I told them not to call, then I wouldn't expect them to, period. I shouldn't have to beg you not to call me to satisfy your business concerns.
Isn't the "customer" supposed to be king?
Tough.
Hi Fox!
I'm your friend, right?
I would be glad to give our mutual friend, the judge, a call.
;^)
Becki
No, if i want a bigger house and i was satisfied with that realtor's performance before, I'll call them.
How about a contractor that did your fence 8 years ago calling about coming out for a free estimate to fix or replace warn parts of the fence?
Again if the fence is worn out or broken and i feel that the orginal fence was satisfactory, i'll do the calling
How about the car dealership that sold you a car 6 years ago, wondering if you'd like to test the new model? I already get this, i got it within 3 days of buying my last car, every dealership that calls will NOT be getting my business in the future.
If a company asks me if i want to recieve notice about new products or updates to exisiting ones and i say yes, then call me til you're blue in the face. otherwise either pay my phone bill or don't call. On october 1 I'm buying an airhorn, every telemarketer that calls me following that day gets an earful.
I didn't put my name on the "do not call" list because for my wife and I, we get a kick out of it. It's almost always dinner time when they call. I answer on a speaker phone so we can both hear and really have fun with the caller. It's cheap entertainment. :) You can act drunk... or like a stoner... or like a hick.... or whatever. It's pretty funny.
RDBMS - look it up, most any will do.
I can write you one under Unix or Linux that does it, handles massive amounts of data, and I'll even guarantee it to the limits of the fidelity of your data bases.
Send me your home phone number and I'll be glad to give you a call tonight around dinner time.
Better yet, post it here in case there are others who are willing to build a better mouse trap for you. I don't mind the competition. Really.
That suits me just DAMN FINE, thank you very much! Want to sell me something? Take out an ad in the phone book. Put up a billboard. Put an ad in the paper. Buy an ad on radio or tv. Stick your phone number on vans and drive around town.
BUT DON'T CALL ME AT MY HOME AND EXPECT ME TO BE INTERESTED IN YOUR SHIT! If I want your shit, I'll call and ask YOU. If I don't, I won't call you.
Simple common courtesy. Such an simple concept and one that the teleterrorists can never understand. If the teleterrorists would abide by that simple concept, we'd have no need for any government to be involved. But since, like lawbreakers, the teleterrorists will NOT follow common courtesy, we ask the government to step in and make them act like responsible adults.
Agreed. But my house would be a lot farther away from this mess than the dog owner's house would be and on balance dealing with the long-term annoyance of the dogs would be worth the short-term annoyance of the mess/stink that the dog owner would be cleaning up in due course.
The second hilarious one I've read today. The first was "telebastards" (a little rough, but funny nonetheless).
No problem...just post your phone number and I'll make sure several software vendors call you every day at home for the next 18 months to explain the benefits of their product.
You keep mentioning these "simple things", but you have not yet listed them. I'm sure there are plenty of folks on this thread that would really appreciate your list of "simple things". Especially if the "simple things" will prevent any more unsolicited calls.
I work nights and sleep days. I'm likely to go ballistic if I don't start getting some solid hours of uninterrupted sleep. How would you like it if strangers kept making noise in your bedroom while you were trying to get some desperately needed sleep? I'm talking about dozens of interruptions per night.
Don't tell me to unplug my phone. That is not an option. I pay for that phone so I can receive emergency calls from my family. I have elderly parents that may need emergency assistance at any moment. If I have to unplug my phone to get sleep, the phone solicitors have litterally committed a denial of service attack against my phone line.
Don't tell me to get a cell phone. My phone number has not changed in 14 years, and I have no intention of changing it now.
Also, keep these "simple things" extremely simple. My time is valuable, and nobody is paying me to defend myself against the unwanted actions of others.
Funny how we never got a good challenge to the tax levied by the FCC on phones (the Albert Gore Junior internet tax for low income homes). The FCC can't tax, that is the power of Congress.
Excel?? LOL.... Guy never heard of SQL?
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