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Federal court rules against FTC no-call list
CBS MarketWatch.com ^ | 9/24/2003 | William L. Watts

Posted on 09/24/2003 8:47:38 AM PDT by SierraWasp

11:29AM Federal court rules against FTC no-call list by William L. Watts

WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- A federal judge in Oklahoma City ruled that the Federal Trade Commission didn't have authority to implement a popular do-not-call list shielding consumers from telemarketing calls, the Direct Marketing Association said. The court reportedly found that statutory jurisdiction for such a list rested with the Federal Communications Commission rather than the FTC. The DMA, a trade group representing telemarketers, brought the suit. In a statement, the organization said it "acknowledges the wishes of millions of U.S. consumers who have expressed their preferences not to receive" telemarketing solicitations. The DMA said it would work with the FTC and the FCC to "evaluate the practical implications" of the judge's decision, which was issued Tuesday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donotcall; fcc; federales; ftc; telebastards; teleterrorists
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To: steve-b
Spam should be treated the same way -- send all the e-mail you like, but do not use any techniques that can be definitively identified as measures designed to defeat anti-spam filters.

And do not send e-mail with a false return address.

That's not advertising--that's denial-of-service.

161 posted on 09/24/2003 10:46:14 AM PDT by Poohbah (Technical difficulties have temporarily interrupted this tagline. Please stand by.)
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To: hoosierboy
I don't see why people were for this list. Telemarketers are just like any other business. If I don't like them calling I just hang up on them. I also have caller ID so I know who is calling. What happened to conservatives for free enterprise and capitalism?

If it were once or twice, it would be different. I have caller ID and do not pick up anything labled unavailable. However, Mr. Unavailable calls me 20-30 times a day.

Now, if you are eating, putting you kids to bed, taking a shower, taking a nap, home with a migraine, anything, do you want to spend your time answering that many phone calls?

I do technical support for an e-commerce web site during the day. I do not want to have to deal with that when I get home.

Becki

162 posted on 09/24/2003 10:46:58 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: Professional
Please tell me which software program has million number capability? Act doesn't, Access doesn't, Goldmine doesn't, Excell can't....

MySQL does. Use ODBC to do an SQL query against the database from Excel or Access. A successful lookup means it is in the DNC list, a failed lookup means it isn't.

However, your inability or unwillingness to solve the problem doesn't mean that the rest of the world should tolerate your intrusion into their lives.

163 posted on 09/24/2003 10:47:27 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: Chad Fairbanks
My right to be left alone in my own home trumps any right the telemarketers may have under a free enterprise system.

The free enterprise system was not built on hundreds of companies coming to your home. It was built on you making your choice of hundreds of companies offering a product.

A true free enterprise system would have people opting in for certain calls.

Becki

164 posted on 09/24/2003 10:48:47 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: Becki
Exactly.
165 posted on 09/24/2003 10:50:49 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Madness takes its toll. Luckily, I have exact change ready...)
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To: Professional
Are those not reasonable "solicitation" calls?

Nope. As far as I'm concerned, if they were that damn interested in my business, they'd keep in touch with me within a reasonable time frame. And if I told them not to call, then I wouldn't expect them to, period. I shouldn't have to beg you not to call me to satisfy your business concerns.

Isn't the "customer" supposed to be king?

166 posted on 09/24/2003 10:53:23 AM PDT by mhking (Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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To: Professional
It is NOT simple, it is extremely difficult and very expensive.

Tough.

167 posted on 09/24/2003 10:54:26 AM PDT by mhking (Don't mess in the affairs of dragons; For you are crunchy, and taste great with ketchup...)
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To: unixfox
I think I'll give him a ringy dingy, and pass out the number to a few friends. 8-)

Hi Fox!

I'm your friend, right?

I would be glad to give our mutual friend, the judge, a call.

;^)

Becki

168 posted on 09/24/2003 10:54:27 AM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: Professional
Should a realtor that worked for you 4 years ago not be allowed to call you wondering if you'd consider a bigger home?

No, if i want a bigger house and i was satisfied with that realtor's performance before, I'll call them.

How about a contractor that did your fence 8 years ago calling about coming out for a free estimate to fix or replace warn parts of the fence?

Again if the fence is worn out or broken and i feel that the orginal fence was satisfactory, i'll do the calling

How about the car dealership that sold you a car 6 years ago, wondering if you'd like to test the new model? I already get this, i got it within 3 days of buying my last car, every dealership that calls will NOT be getting my business in the future.

If a company asks me if i want to recieve notice about new products or updates to exisiting ones and i say yes, then call me til you're blue in the face. otherwise either pay my phone bill or don't call. On october 1 I'm buying an airhorn, every telemarketer that calls me following that day gets an earful.

169 posted on 09/24/2003 10:54:40 AM PDT by rattrap (Looters and Moochers and Peaceniks, OH MY!!!!)
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To: ProudFossil
I have fun with them too. If you really want to have fun... the next time a male caller calls.... and asks to speak to your spouse... use your best "hick" voice... and repeatedly accuse him of being the 'fella' you saw her runnin' 'round with last week! That can get pretty funny.

I didn't put my name on the "do not call" list because for my wife and I, we get a kick out of it. It's almost always dinner time when they call. I answer on a speaker phone so we can both hear and really have fun with the caller. It's cheap entertainment. :) You can act drunk... or like a stoner... or like a hick.... or whatever. It's pretty funny.

170 posted on 09/24/2003 10:56:19 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Professional
Please tell me which software program has million number capability? Act doesn't, Access doesn't, Goldmine doesn't, Excell can't......

RDBMS - look it up, most any will do.

171 posted on 09/24/2003 10:56:47 AM PDT by rattrap (Looters and Moochers and Peaceniks, OH MY!!!!)
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To: Professional
What program can analyze that much data, with 100% certainty, in a reasonable time, for tremendous numbers of variables?

I can write you one under Unix or Linux that does it, handles massive amounts of data, and I'll even guarantee it to the limits of the fidelity of your data bases.

Send me your home phone number and I'll be glad to give you a call tonight around dinner time.

Better yet, post it here in case there are others who are willing to build a better mouse trap for you. I don't mind the competition. Really.

172 posted on 09/24/2003 10:58:25 AM PDT by LTCJ
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To: Professional
Compliance was to the point that the only option was NO calls PERIOD!

That suits me just DAMN FINE, thank you very much! Want to sell me something? Take out an ad in the phone book. Put up a billboard. Put an ad in the paper. Buy an ad on radio or tv. Stick your phone number on vans and drive around town.

BUT DON'T CALL ME AT MY HOME AND EXPECT ME TO BE INTERESTED IN YOUR SHIT! If I want your shit, I'll call and ask YOU. If I don't, I won't call you.

Simple common courtesy. Such an simple concept and one that the teleterrorists can never understand. If the teleterrorists would abide by that simple concept, we'd have no need for any government to be involved. But since, like lawbreakers, the teleterrorists will NOT follow common courtesy, we ask the government to step in and make them act like responsible adults.

173 posted on 09/24/2003 10:59:14 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (http://righteverytime1.blogspot.com - home to Tall_Texan's latest column.)
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To: Tall_Texan
Teleterrorists...... LOL... hadn't heard that one before.
174 posted on 09/24/2003 11:00:34 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: 1L
Have you ever shot a racoon? It's not something you want killed in the yard next to yours.

Agreed. But my house would be a lot farther away from this mess than the dog owner's house would be and on balance dealing with the long-term annoyance of the dogs would be worth the short-term annoyance of the mess/stink that the dog owner would be cleaning up in due course.

175 posted on 09/24/2003 11:00:55 AM PDT by RonF
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To: kjam22
Teleterrorists...... LOL... hadn't heard that one before.

The second hilarious one I've read today. The first was "telebastards" (a little rough, but funny nonetheless).

176 posted on 09/24/2003 11:03:22 AM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: Professional
Please tell me which software program has million number capability? Act doesn't, Access doesn't, Goldmine doesn't, Excell can't......

No problem...just post your phone number and I'll make sure several software vendors call you every day at home for the next 18 months to explain the benefits of their product.

177 posted on 09/24/2003 11:05:31 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Professional
If you don't want to be called, just do some fairly simple things and problem will be solved.

You keep mentioning these "simple things", but you have not yet listed them. I'm sure there are plenty of folks on this thread that would really appreciate your list of "simple things". Especially if the "simple things" will prevent any more unsolicited calls.

I work nights and sleep days. I'm likely to go ballistic if I don't start getting some solid hours of uninterrupted sleep. How would you like it if strangers kept making noise in your bedroom while you were trying to get some desperately needed sleep? I'm talking about dozens of interruptions per night.

Don't tell me to unplug my phone. That is not an option. I pay for that phone so I can receive emergency calls from my family. I have elderly parents that may need emergency assistance at any moment. If I have to unplug my phone to get sleep, the phone solicitors have litterally committed a denial of service attack against my phone line.

Don't tell me to get a cell phone. My phone number has not changed in 14 years, and I have no intention of changing it now.

Also, keep these "simple things" extremely simple. My time is valuable, and nobody is paying me to defend myself against the unwanted actions of others.

178 posted on 09/24/2003 11:06:27 AM PDT by InfraRed
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To: SierraWasp
A federal judge in Oklahoma City ruled that the Federal Trade Commission didn't have authority to implement a popular do-not-call list shielding consumers from telemarketing calls

Funny how we never got a good challenge to the tax levied by the FCC on phones (the Albert Gore Junior internet tax for low income homes). The FCC can't tax, that is the power of Congress.

179 posted on 09/24/2003 11:07:18 AM PDT by weegee
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To: Orangedog
Please tell me which software program has million number capability? Act doesn't, Access doesn't, Goldmine doesn't, Excell can't......

Excel?? LOL.... Guy never heard of SQL?

180 posted on 09/24/2003 11:07:41 AM PDT by kjam22
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