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Refreshingly, no one is blamed. They only mention 'climate change' and warming without attributing it to SUV's
1 posted on 09/23/2003 5:56:43 AM PDT by pa_dweller
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Heh, good point.
The global warming freaks want everyone to suppose the climate was always static before the Industrial Age.
2 posted on 09/23/2003 6:07:44 AM PDT by Blast Radius ("hey, let's blame Reagan")
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I'm inclined to think that there is an entirely different thought on this that isn't contained in this article. This was written by three scientists.
3 posted on 09/23/2003 6:10:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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WE MUST SIGN KYOTO NOW!!

SUV'S ARE KILLING THE EARTH!!

NO WAR FOR OIL!!


(sorry...I was having a knee-jerk Liberal moment)
6 posted on 09/23/2003 6:19:03 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("The board is set. The pieces are moving. We come to it at last...the Great Battle of our time.")
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Miners that ignore dead canaries in the mine soon follow. If you want to ignore the clear signals from the planet and make inane comments about SUVs - feel free, but the signs of global warming are there. It's probably too late to do anything about the changes in climate, whether natural or man-influenced.
We've paid our money - now we get to takes our chances. One more spin of the Chuc'o'luck wheel.
8 posted on 09/23/2003 6:24:51 AM PDT by familyofman
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It's Bush's fault!!!!!!! He does not care about our children; he cares only about big oil and his rich friends!!!!!!!!
9 posted on 09/23/2003 6:25:15 AM PDT by gedeon3
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Oh dear, I guess my spring baby seal hunt will have to be cancelled. Darn! ///<:9>///
11 posted on 09/23/2003 6:26:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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The huge mass of floating ice, which has been in place for at least 3,000 years

I wonder where the ice shelf was before that?

14 posted on 09/23/2003 6:30:33 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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The huge mass of floating ice, which has been in place for at least 3,000 years, is now in two major pieces.

This does not sound to me like a system that was meant to last "forever".

15 posted on 09/23/2003 6:34:31 AM PDT by FairWitness
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"And if we are losing them, we are losing the opportunity to study life earlier in Earth history and elsewhere in the Solar System."

Dreamland junk-science alert.

17 posted on 09/23/2003 6:39:39 AM PDT by cookcounty
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Refreshingly, no one is blamed.

That's true, but I still thought the tone of the article verged on the hysterical. IMO, the only thing changing from a scientific point of view is our understanding of the earth's natural cycles.

18 posted on 09/23/2003 6:44:31 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Once more the "Global Change" liars are on the march. Their arrogance is amazing. Claiming to have any idea as to the direction of the global climate is borderline psychotic.

For years I have been taking many of the worlds leading minds on the issue to Antarctica and to Greenland. Many of them do not dare suppose to speak in absolutes when it comes to such events. The fact remains, their claims of the earths age alone tells us all that their miniscule amount of collected data from RECENTLY invented devices that could accurately give them indications can not be trusted to give ANY kind of trend in one direction or another.

The current breed of world huggers who preach to us the end of the earth as we know it due to mankind are the very people who gre up worshiping the scientists who were telling us of the coming ice age in the 1970's

Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills would dismiss much of this garbage. I walked into a science museum in St. Louis this past summer and wanted to throw up. Their preaching to our children in absolute terms their theories that have never been proven from evolution to global climate and its massive variables that can't even be completly measured.

Frauds of the worst order and home to the socialists of the world, thats what I consider them.
20 posted on 09/23/2003 6:47:58 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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Once more the "Global Change" liars are on the march. Their arrogance is amazing. Claiming to have any idea as to the direction of the global climate is borderline psychotic.

For years I have been taking many of the worlds leading minds on the issue to Antarctica and to Greenland. Many of them do not dare suppose to speak in absolutes when it comes to such events. The fact remains, their claims of the earths age alone tells us all that their miniscule amount of collected data from RECENTLY invented devices that could accurately give them indications can not be trusted to give ANY kind of trend in one direction or another.

The current breed of world huggers who preach to us the end of the earth as we know it due to mankind are the very people who gre up worshiping the scientists who were telling us of the coming ice age in the 1970's

Anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills would dismiss much of this garbage. I walked into a science museum in St. Louis this past summer and wanted to throw up. Their preaching to our children in absolute terms their theories that have never been proven from evolution to global climate and its massive variables that can't even be completly measured.

Frauds of the worst order and home to the socialists of the world, thats what I consider them.
21 posted on 09/23/2003 6:47:59 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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if this is not BREAKING NEWS, then what ?


23 posted on 09/23/2003 6:52:24 AM PDT by Truth666
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Refreshingly, no one is blamed. They only mention 'climate change' and warming without attributing it to SUV's

I think the scientific evidence shows that the world is getting warmer. I don't think that the evidence shows that this increase was caused by man. In the middle ages, there was a mini-ice age which was not man made. We overestimate our impact on the planet.

24 posted on 09/23/2003 6:52:42 AM PDT by Modernman ("Oh no, the dead have risen and they're voting Republican"- Lisa Simpson)
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And we've never seen fractures like this," Dr Jeffries told the BBC.


30 posted on 09/23/2003 7:12:07 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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It's icy, it's cracked, it made it into the media because of hot air.

Can we name it the Hillary shelf?
31 posted on 09/23/2003 7:14:24 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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Refreshingly, no one is blamed.

That's because Dr Jeffries and the others are real scientist doing real science.

42 posted on 09/23/2003 8:46:37 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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The loss of fresh and brackish water has changed the environment for the microscopic animals and algae living in the area.

"These are very rare and unusual ecosystems and they have been studied as possible analogues for life on a colder Earth and life on the planets," Dr Jeffries said.

"And if we are losing them, we are losing the opportunity to study life earlier in Earth history and elsewhere in the Solar System."


The do not have to worry, these organisms are abundant. They have forgotten plate tectonics and the long time it took for these organisms to evolve. Check this nice animation: http://www.odsn.de/odsn/services/paleomap/animation.html
44 posted on 09/23/2003 9:41:51 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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Sounds like an appeal for giverment money...
What with unemployment the way it is.....
46 posted on 09/23/2003 11:43:33 AM PDT by hosepipe
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"The researchers - Warwick Vincent and Derek Mueller of Laval University in Quebec City, Canada; and Martin Jeffries of the University of Alaska Fairbanks, US - have been studying the shelf onsite and through satellite radar imagery and helicopter overflights."

I'll bet those suckers broke the damn thing!

57 posted on 09/24/2003 5:15:57 PM PDT by patriot_wes
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