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1 posted on 09/22/2003 9:31:01 PM PDT by SandRat
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Did you try Raytheon in Tucson?

I suggest you look into it, they are always looking for fresh graduates.

Good luck!

I would also look at commercial companies and use the Aerospace Engineering degree as a springboard, instead of insisting on a job in that area.
2 posted on 09/22/2003 9:34:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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The Air Force can always use a good person - and they own a lot of airplanes.....
3 posted on 09/22/2003 9:36:42 PM PDT by ASOC (The honest truth is, the guy at the pointy end of the stick sets National policy - nobody else)
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Try Lockheed Martin. Good luck.
4 posted on 09/22/2003 9:38:19 PM PDT by Jen (Support our troops! Share the news of our military's successes that the liberal media won't report.)
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To: SandRat
Has he tried Lockheed Martin?
5 posted on 09/22/2003 9:44:15 PM PDT by kerosene
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The economy sucks right now, so there's not much hiring going on.

His best bet might be to go back to school and get his Masters Degree. That would give him a competitive edge over those with a BS when the market picks up; and he could command a higher salary.

The typical Masters program takes about 1.5 years, so he could also look for a job while getting his Masters.

7 posted on 09/22/2003 9:45:56 PM PDT by Mulder (Fight the future)
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Blue Origin
10 posted on 09/22/2003 9:48:15 PM PDT by Brett66
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Tell him to move to India - I hear Boeing will be hiring there...

Always glad to help!
13 posted on 09/22/2003 9:52:45 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("People never grow up, they just learn how to act in public." - Bryan White)
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My 15-year old just told me he wants to be a rocket scientist. Hope there's work for him in 7 years...
14 posted on 09/22/2003 9:53:06 PM PDT by BigBobber
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You mean that he is looking outside Arizona too?

Pure aerospace, like Northrop or Boeing are really hurting, so they are probably not hiring, but Lockheed may be. They have major operation in the San Francisco area.

He can check out the websites of these companies.

Also, many times colleges have a "placement center" where they have either job descriptions and/or companies to look at, who expressed interest in new hires.

Checking the internet and the paper for job fairs is another possibility.

The main thing is to keep looking and not get discouraged.

I don't know what his resume looks like, but having a little summary on top is usually a good idea, summarizing key capabilities, interests (not hobbies, but job related ones)( i.e. don't just say, looking for "aerospace engineering" job).

I would just put "engineer" and maybe a few key things, "key words" that people look at. Some of those he can get by looking through some job descriptions and see which would apply to him.
15 posted on 09/22/2003 9:56:34 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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A lot of the engineering is being moved out of the country. I don't know what to tell you.
16 posted on 09/22/2003 9:58:20 PM PDT by RLK
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If he is willing to relocate, and his grades are decent, there are plenty of jobs. Lockheed Martin in Philadelphia is hiring like mad, for example. It's mostly programming at that location though. Still, it would be a way to get his foot in the door.

As for the guy whose kid wants to be a rocket scientist: there are always jobs like that, you just have to stand out by getting good grades and working hard. It's a lot of work. It pays off eventually.
17 posted on 09/22/2003 10:01:47 PM PDT by zonan
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Lockheed Martin (Sunnyvale and Palo Alto, CA) is hiring. Job Fairs, recruitment drive, the whole nine yards.
18 posted on 09/22/2003 10:07:56 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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Tried Orbital Sciences?
19 posted on 09/22/2003 10:11:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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Lockheed is a good recommendation. I should know, I work there... :)

I was in the same situation when I graduated. No jobs due to defense downsizing (after the Reagan boom). I went and got a Master's degree. It's a great route if he doesn't mind a little more school. I found that it places you on top of the resume pile if the competition only has an undergrad degree.

Anyway, good luck and don't be afraid to accept other offers outside the aerospace industry, you can always go there after some work experience.

One last trick, try volunteering some time at a firm. At minimum, you get some experience to put on the resume and at best, they could end up hiring you!
23 posted on 09/22/2003 10:58:00 PM PDT by dmanLA
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I have some contacts at a Long Beach, CA engineering firm that does sub work for Boeing.
Freep mail me if interested in names and numbers.
24 posted on 09/22/2003 11:01:57 PM PDT by PRND21
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Ain't no jobs.

Electrical Engineering here...applied to everything I could find nationwide.

I think if I put on a foreign accent and pretended to have a resident alien visa I'd have a better chance.
26 posted on 09/23/2003 5:26:22 AM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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I'm a recruiter. Here's what to do.

1. Build a list of target companies (Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, etc.).

2. Find the "project managers" and "program managers" in those companies > email them the resume > then follow up with a phone call to them.

Here is a web URL with search results leading to .xls files, these files containing contact information of such people. Highlight/copy and then paste this web address into your browser window:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=filetype%3Axls+AND+%22lockheed+martin%22+AND+boeing+AND+%28%22program+manager%22+OR+%22project+manager%22%29&ei=UTF-8&n=20&fl=0&x=wrt

In this search (above) where it says "filetype:xls" - you can change that to "filetype:pdf" and open even more similar documents in the .pdf format (need to download the free Adobe Acrobat reader (http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html)

Also, use the career center at the school.

Best of luck and email me at paw@colltech.com if you need additional help.

32 posted on 09/23/2003 11:37:47 AM PDT by paulsy
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Lockheed Martin in Orlando has been posting openings lately. Try Boeing in the same area.
35 posted on 02/20/2004 5:11:27 PM PST by fuente
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