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The bone that sticks in our throats is Arnold's pro-abortion, pro-perversion position. These issues are simply too serious to be compromised. If necessary, I'd be willing to support a moderate RINO who was not committed to killing babies rather than elect someone like Bustamente. But I won't compromise on baby killing, and I'm sure there's a large conservative core in California that will never vote for Arnold.

It's been proved again and again, by Riordan only a couple of years ago, and by Bob Dole earlier. California conservatives will not support a pro-abort RINO.

The 2002 election showed that there is widespread support for the pro-life position in most parts of the country. Wake up, Karl Rove. If the country clubbers want to win, they must concede this issue.

Cicero writes: The bone that sticks in our throats is Arnold's pro-abortion, pro-perversion position. These issues are simply too serious to be compromised. If necessary, I'd be willing to support a moderate RINO who was not committed to killing babies rather than elect someone like Bustamente. But I won't compromise on baby killing, and I'm sure there's a large conservative core in California that will never vote for Arnold.

No, Cicero.

The "bone" that is going to "stick in [y]our throats" October 8th is Governor BUSTAMANTE. Better get used to it.

I peruse the "recall threads" with nothing short of pessimistic amusement. The vitriol expressed here among Republicans grows, heaves and boils; it would be downright funny if it just wasn't so sad. Non-Californians are being treated to a textbook example of how to lose in the face of victory.

I'm reminded of a scene in Rod Serling's political thriller "Seven Days In May", in which a loyal Senator (trying to prevent a coup of the U.S. government), having been captured by renegade Army forces is confronted by a "neutral" officer who is unaware of the gravity of the situation. The Senator warns him, "right now the government of the United States is sitting on the tip of the Washington Monument, teetering back and forth, about to go over -- and you're one of the handful of people who can save it!"

At this point in history, California -- and perhaps our entire nation -- is in similar peril -- but no one seems able to save it from the coming, perhaps inevitable, crash.

Think the flood of anti-American, pro-illegal legislation coming from Gray Davis right now is bad enough? Then, heck -- wait to see what comes from the desk of [soon-to-be] governor Bustamante!

Think that state senator McClintock and the rest of the Republicans in state government are going to be able to stop him? Of course, the same way they stopped the illegal drivers' licenses. (laughing outloud)

With Bustamante holding the reins, California will gallop full speed towards becoming MEXIfornia. And from there, it's only a short trot to MEChAfornia, the prelude to Atzlan.

What to do? Is there any way out?

Of course, the preferable solution would be for either Tom McClintock or Arnold Swarzenengger to withdraw from the race, throwing support to the surviving candidate. That candidate _might_ have a chance at winning. But, short of a miracle, this isn't going to happen.

In that case, what will be the result?

Unless Davis' support rises above the 50% mark, Cruz Bustamante is the next governor of California. He will win with a [relatively] low plurality the same way that Clinton won (over Bush 1 and Perot) in 1992.

Is there _any_ way to STOP Bustamante from becoming governor?

Yes. Vote "no" on the recall. Then vote for the Republican candidate of your choice.

For stating this, I'm going to be labeled a Democratic disruptor. Say what you wish (I am no such thing).

Here is your OTHER choice:
Vote "yes" on the recall, then vote for the Republican candidate of your choice. Davis will be recalled, but Bustamante wins over a McClintock/Swarzenegger "split".

Who do you REALLY want as governor, given these two "choices": Davis, or Bustamante?

Cheers!
- John

If necessary, I'd be willing to support a moderate RINO who was not committed to killing babies rather than elect someone like Bustamente.

I'd be willing to support a liberal Republican if, for example, he was opposed to abortion in the 3rd trimester when it's proven that babies are viable outside the womb, though it would make more sense to be opposed in both 2nd and 3rd.