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You know that FR is a Conservative forum,but Jim has repeatedly said that the idea is to get the Dems out of office FIRST and work on getting more and more solid Conservatives in afterwards.

Arnold may not be as Conservative as some FREEPERs are; however, if he were, he wouldn't be electable. Tom has great Conservative credentials ( to some, who overlook his flaws !), but he is absolutely unelectable. This scenario, with Cruz losing some votes to Arnold, but a strong bases, nonetheless, in a candidate field of 130+, means that whoever gets the most votes wins. Cruz might. Arnold WILL, if enough DOG IN THE MANGER supposed Conservatives, stop being blinkered masochists.

Even if EVERY Conservative in California voted for Tom, he'd lose. Arnold's California supporters aren't all Republicans, let alone Conservatives. He gets crossover votes, which strengthens Republicans; especially in future elections.

Staying home or voting for Tom, won't help GOP/Conservative goals. It won't help California. It won't help anything or anyone but Cruz B. and the further destruction of California. It's really just that simple. Oh yes, and " principles " won't keep Tom's supporters warm, clothed, fed, safe IF Cruz wins. And no, they won't be sleeping better either.

IT will not be Doomsday if Arnold or Busty doesn't get elected. Get a grip as this sellout of one's principles to 'Just Win,Baby!' advances nothing for the conservative cause, no matter how far Right Arnie tries to appear. Besides, we have legal and elective recourses that can be pursued.

A bit of overreaction is quite evident in some folks of late. tsk tsk .. Nobody ever promised you a Rose Garden anyway, did they? ;-)

Even if EVERY Conservative in California voted for Tom, he'd lose. Arnold's California supporters aren't all Republicans, let alone Conservatives.

If every democrat in the state planned on voting next month you might have a point. Unfortunately for your senario, things are a little more complicated.

For example, there's those that are motivated to vote & those who are disillusioned. I think its safe to say the GOP will have more success than normal getting the vote out.

Also, believe it or not there are plenty of democrats who find someone willing to take a no tax pledge pretty attractive and will vote accordingly after the curtain is pulled shut. "Unelectable in CA" McC lost his last statewide election by a fraction of a percent, which indicates there are democrats who will cross over for the man.

IMO, many democrats are alot more open minded to TM as governor than are many "conservatives" on FR.

"DOG IN THE MANGER supposed Conservatives, stop being blinkered masochists."

Insults, always insults. First, we're delusional, then we will be responsible for electing buster, then we're irrational and now we're Dogs in a Manger! How the hell do you expect us to vote for your democrat running as an republican (just like bloomberg in NY) if you people continue your barrage of insults. One thing you people know how to do is, alienate people. You may be masochistic by continuallly voting for liberal/moderate pretend republicans, but, we aren't.

You can sell out, but, don't expect me to do likewise.