The mills of Xenu grind exceeding(ly) slow (Scientology)

the inquirer ^ | 9-12-03 | Wendy M. Grossman

[TomB]

I realize this aritlce is a week old, but it ties in nicely with a discussion on the "Church" of $cientology on another thread.

[jocon307]

"Spaink is pretty clearly motivated by her belief in freedom of speech as an inalienable right; she also hosts anti-abortion The Nuremberg Files that was ordered offline despite being pro-choice herself."

That's pretty amazing. I'm pro-life and I don't support the Nuremberg Files, or at least I don't believe the owners when they say they are not advocating violence.

This was an interesting article. I bet there are a lot of folks who miss the days when the "internet" was a secret preserve of the geeky.

[TomB]

More evidence of the authenticity of the "Xenu" story.

[TomB]

This was an interesting article. I bet there are a lot of folks who miss the days when the "internet" was a secret preserve of the geeky.

You mean when individual pages took 20 seconds to load? Or free porn? ;-)

Acutally, the wild old days of the web were a lot of fun.

[Timesink]

This was an interesting article. I bet there are a lot of folks who miss the days when the "internet" was a secret preserve of the geeky.

You are absolutely correct. The net of 2003 is a wonderful thing, but the net of the early 1990s had a lot of unique and special qualities that have largely disappeared.

[Timesink]

I'm no fan of Scientology, but we could learn a lot by studying how they use the legal system to destroy their opponents. In a time where the left still has an almost iron-fisted control over the US courts, and uses them to legislate socialist policy from the bench rather than interpret laws, we should not dismiss the possibility of using the same legal system against them, to seriously fight back instead of just moaning and complaining about getting screwed over.

[TomB]

I don't know if they are nearly as successful as they imply. Most of their recent legal adventures have gone against them. They seem to use the legal system not so much to win as to harass. And what they have in their favor is an almost inexhaustable supply of lawyers AND money.

[dighton]

Though the mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small;
Though with patience He stands waiting, with exactness grinds He all.

-- Longfellow, Retribution.

[proxy_user]

Does anyone know if these events lead to the creation of the MixMaster and Cyberpunk anonymity systems?

[Loyalist]

Xenu hates me, this I know
For L. Ron Hubbard tells me so!
But we can foil his evil plans
With jumper cables and tin cans.

Yes, Xenu hates me.
Yes, Xenu hates me.
Yes, Xenu hates me.
I paid ten grand to know!

[realpatriot]

LOL!
Bookmark bump.

[Riverman94610]

Hey,I blew $150 back in 1968 on that"auditing"flim flam!Two sessions with some wired tin cans and that was the show,baby!
What was so crazy was that for twenty five years after I severed all ties from them,I STILL got their junk mail along with occasional personal pleas from"org officers"trying to convince me to come back to The Truth!I even went so far as to stuff their self addressed envelopes with grass cuttings and dried doggie doo doo but they STILL kept sending me that crap!
Riverman,who never went Clear.

[TomB]

With jumper cables and tin cans.

Just make sure you clean the dried soup out of them before you use them:

I paid ten grand to know!

Ten grand?! What, did you have a coupon?

I figure getting "clear" has to be closer to $100,000.

[theFIRMbss]

>For L. Ron Hubbard tells me so!

Oh come all ye Grateful Deadheads to the concert.
Oh come Grateful Deadheads and camp in the street.
Bring rolling papers, don't forget your sleeping bags.

Oh come get us some floor seats.
We followed them for four weeks.
Oh come get us some floor seats, to see the Lord.

Come all ye hippies, throwbacks to the '60's.
Paint flowers on your van and don't wash your feet.
Wear your bell-bottoms and your tie-dyed t-shirts.

Oh come let us adore them. We quit our day jobs for them.
Oh come let us adore them. Garcia's the Lord.

[TomB]

Speaking of the Lord, here is what Hubbard has to say about Jesus in the infamous OT 8:

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired to see where it all inevitably leads. It is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.

And yet the Co$ cultists claim that Scientology is compatible with Christianity

[Pan_Yans Wife]

It is my understanding that John Travolta, even though he is a devout Scientologist, claims that he is still a Christian, and that Scientology doesn't ask you to leave your former faith, that you can just incorporate its teachings into your life.

I don't believe him. I believe the COS wants to be the only faith that its members turn to, not Jesus. And Hubbard's characterization implies that Christ is not compatible with Scientology.

(Hoping that a thinking Christian would run for the hills, when confronted with Scientology!)

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Didn't COS also break into IRS offices, or some-such many years ago, and Hubbard's wife was involved?

Forgive my confusion, but it is sometimes hard to distinguish fact from reality, when thinking of Scientology.

[adam_az]

Hubbard stole his wife from Jack Parsons, the Cal Tech rocket scientist who was also the Aliester Crowley appointed head of the Califonia OTO.

[TomB]

Here is a link to the information on Mary Sue Hubbard. Yes, she went to jail for various offenses regarding the IRS. I believe L. Ron was an unindicted co-conspirator in the case.

MARY SUE HUBBARD, et al. STIPULATION OF EVIDENCE

[Oztrich Boy]

Different wife. The girl he stole from Parsons was Sara "Betty" Northrup, who became his second wife on 10 August 1946.

After divorcing her, he married Mary Sue Whipp, the subsquent breakinee, in September 1952.

In the interim, Mrs Hubbard #1, neé Mary Louise "Polly" Grubb, had divorced Habbard, so his third marriage, unlike his second, was actually legal.