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"Will of the (Iraqi) people!" [Press, Chirac, Anan, DNC ~ listen to Saddam's survivors:]
The Independent, Wall Street Journal, Reuters, Iraq Press, IpNews, Daily Star (Lebanon) ^ | Sept. 21, 2003 | Various

Posted on 09/21/2003 12:10:12 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

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What Iraqis Really Think  ~ 9/10
First serious int'l survey of the Iraqi people

"We will not forget it was the U.S. soldiers who liberated us from Saddam," said Abid Ali, an auto repair shop owner in Sadr City last month -- and our research shows that he's not unrepresentative.

...Evidence of the comparative gentleness of this war can be seen in our poll. Less than 30% of our sample of Iraqis knew or heard of anyone killed in the spring fighting. Meanwhile, fully half knew some family member, neighbor or friend who had been killed by Iraqi security forces during the years Saddam held power.

Perhaps the ultimate indication of how comfortable Iraqis are with America's aims in their region came when we asked how long they would like to see American and British forces remain in their country: Six months? One year? Two years or more? Two thirds of those with an opinion urged that the coalition troops should stick around for at least another year.

We're making headway in a benighted part of the world. Hang in there, America.

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IRAQ: Plan unveiled to restore ministry buildings(200,000 jobs created) ~ 9/17

"We have cleaned major thoroughfares and extended services to most areas. We are collecting garbage, repainting streets, repairing sewage and water pipelines and trying to keep Baghdad clean and tidy," he said. (Hadi Faeisa al-Salmani, Baghdad Municipal). He said the municipality has made 200,000 job opportunities available in Baghdad alone.

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Letter from Iraq ~ 9/9

Pan_Yans Wife wrote Ahmad a letter in response to this: 8 Thanks from Iraq ~ Ahmad Al-Attar, grateful Iraqi med student request for medical supplies ~ Al-Zahrawi Hospital ~ Mosul, Iraq | Science Magazine.

This was his response to her:

Dear XXXXXXX,

I’m the one who should thank you very much for your lovely email! It is great to know that there are people in the world who do not know you and do not need to care about you, yet their kindness and humanity spread across continents wide to bring back hope in our frail souls giving us the energy we need to carry on and never give up no matter how hopeless the situation seem. God bless all the brave men and women who sacrificed their lives to help us, and God bless all those who are continuing to do their best to make Iraq a democratic and free nation. Amen.

You know, liberty may be such a simple word and can be taken for granted in many places around the world, but the truth is: there is nothing more precious than the sense of being free…it is simply indescribable! The day Saddam’s infamous statue fell which marked the end of the tyrant’s reign, was arguably the happiest day of my life. It was a dream come true…and at times, even dreaming of getting rid of that thug was difficult. He ruled with an iron fist, a phony religious pretense and a diabolic plan to devalue everything that had a value, especially knowledge & science. I could go on forever describing some of his atrocities and crimes, many of which are too bad to be believed! But I am not going to bore you with that. I just wanted to thank you for your kind words and prayers. Please spare some for the American soldiers who are unfortunately still being under attack from Saddam loyalists. I pray for their safety and happy return home.

I also appreciate very much your efforts to “find the truth” as we too suffer from all the negative media cover which makes Iraqis more frustrated and reflect a bad image of the country. I assure you, most Iraqis are hard-working people who just want to rebuild their country and forget the dark era of wars, hate and tyranny and work on a new democratic Iraq where we can live in peace and harmony with all the civilized nations of the world. We now have our golden opportunity and we won’t let anybody take it away from us.

God bless you all, and thanks again.

Yours Ahmad Al-Attar

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Gassed town has no doubts on US claims [of Iraqi WMD's] ~ 9/15

...They lined the route of his convoy, mixing the traditional Kurdish dress of puffed trousers and wide belt with the fatigues of peshmerga fighters. Women in black headscarves carried flowers or pictures of their loved ones.

Children issued smart military salutes while the crowd held aloft portraits of US President George W. Bush and banners emblazoned with: "Our liberators are welcome," "We love America" or "Thank you President Bush".

The chief US diplomat spent several emotionally wrenching hours here, visiting a small monument built to mark the tragedy surrounded by 1,000 gravestones on the edge of the town.

At a ceremony with hundreds of relatives of those who perished from the town of 40,000 people, Powell stood flanked by US civil administrator Paul Bremer and Kurdish leaders Jalal Talabani and Massud Barzani.

Powell toured a memorial museum housing a vast collection of photographs, many of them showing children struck down dead in the street as the toxins engulfed the town. The walls were etched with the names of the 5,000 dead.

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Iraqis and coalition forces provide legal due process to oil smugglers at sea ~ 9/15

Last week, Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, in conjunction with the Coalition Provisional Authority and Commander, Joint Task Force Seven, escorted an Iraqi judge to the vessels being held in Iraqi territorial waters under suspicion of smuggling Iraqi oil.

The Al Basrah Investigating Judge visited the detained vessels to adjudicate the smuggling cases.

“I am very thankful to coalition forces for trying to help the Iraqi people re-establish the Iraqi judicial system,” he said. “They are trying to support and help the Iraqi people, and to protect Iraqi ports from all the vessels that are trying to smuggle illegal fuel out of the country. I am hoping this will be fixed and will help us a lot in trying to avoid this in the future.”

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Pan-Arabism, Dead In Baghdad’s Streets ~ 9/17

...Evidence on the ground in Iraq suggests that the population does not actually regard the absence of Arab involvement as a bad thing at all. The truth is that most Iraqis would prefer to have a US-dominated force in their country, over an Arab one. The grim reality, one particularly hard to hear for those Arabs who felt they were supporting their Iraqi brethren when demonstrating against war, is that most Iraqis don’t want to have anything to do with them.

On the walls of Mosul University, one of Iraq’s oldest, warning signs are clearly displayed: “No Jordanians, No Palestinians.” Iraqis are clearly still upset that other Arabs were able to study in Iraq, effectively on former President Saddam Hussein’s payroll. Iraqis have had enough of seeing their own lives compromised for the benefit of Arabs from neighbouring countries. Saddam played the Palestinian card for all it was worth. Iraqis widely believe that the support, both vocal and financial, he gave to families of Palestinian suicide bombers was the reason behind the wrath of the “Zionists” in Israel and America.

Whether that is true or not is beside the point ­ Iraqis saw other Arabs benefit from the Baath regime, while they were left to suffer. In contrast, the US spilled the blood of its soldiers to liberate them from Saddam’s tyranny. No matter how bad things are in Iraq, friends, colleagues and relatives assure me that with the pressure of living under the old regime gone, life is 100 percent better.

The illicit oil deals between Saddam’s regime and countries like Syria and Jordan, which were affectionately known as “memorandums of understanding,” irked the population. Even now, in a country that has the world’s second-largest reserves of crude oil, Iraqis must go begging to Syria, Turkey and Jordan for fuel imports to meet domestic consumption. It’s not an easy pill for the average Iraqi to swallow.

Stories are doing the rounds telling of how even Kuwaitis profited from Saddam after 1991. Iraqis are incensed that people from a country supposed to be their enemy were treated better by their leader than they were. “Foreigners had more rights in Iraq than Iraqis did under Saddam,” is not an uncommon complaint heard in Baghdad. There is a lot of animosity toward those countries that managed to gain from the former regime’s thirst for international recognition and popularity. In this light, the bombing of the Jordanian Embassy in August is not difficult to comprehend. It was even more tragic and disgusting an act when considering that it was mainly Iraqis who died in the blast.

Pan-Arab nationalists will find that their dreams have died in the dusty streets of Baghdad and in the narrow lanes of Fallujah. Iraqis just aren’t interested. They have enough problems of their own and want to get back on an even keel, to enjoy their country as they were always supposed to. In Jordan, King Abdullah champions his “Jordan First” campaign, struggling to get the message out to his people. Iraqis have learned their lessons ­ Iraq comes first; there is no second place.

Mustafa Alrawi is managing editor of the Baghdad-based and Iraqi-staffed independent weekly Iraq Today (www.iraq-today.com), Iraq’s first English-language newspaper. He wrote this commentary for THE DAILY STAR

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Iraqi entrepreneurs to launch 24 hour tv channel ~ 9/17

Baghdad, Iraq Press, September 17, 2003 – A group of Iraqi entrepreneurs have launched a new television channel whose 24-hour broadcasts are to be carried the world over via satellite.

The Iraq Broadcasting Corporation or IBC is the first post-Saddam independent and private broadcasting company.

"The company aims especially at Iraqi viewers via programs to be beamed on both local and international levels," IBC's spokeswoman Shahla Hassan told Iraq Press.

"IBC does not associate itself with any particular party, group, religion or sect. It is open to all cultures and beliefs," she added.

Since the ouster of dictator Saddam Hussein, the Iraqis have been swamped by satellite television and a flood of newspapers.

Under Saddam Hussein, satellite dishes were banned and the few Internet cafes in the country were under the control of the security organs and users were not allowed to build their own e-mails.

Many Iraqis feel that the international media particularly Arab satellite television channels do not provide a balanced reporting of their post-war conditions.

"We shall try to bring happiness to Iraqi households after years of gloom and isolation under Saddam Hussein," Hassan added.

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Peaceful city shows another side to postwar Iraq ~ 9/19

...Residents of the agricultural hub city known as the "White Flower" for its traditionally low crime and easy-going ways say Kut is worlds apart from the country they see each night ablaze with attacks on their cut-price television sets.

"Life is absolutely normal here," Mohammed Idian, 35, said on Friday in his central shoe shop.

Residents ascribe the relative tranquillity to Kut's new-found prosperity as a trade hub and the fact that it is a mainly Shi'ite city where support for toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was never strong.

...Iraqi police chat in the shade, donkeys pull carts along the streets as black-robed women with shopping bags step into the road around satellite dishes that clog the sidewalk.

Outside the mosque that serves the city of about 300,000 people, men with towels on their heads to tame the afternoon sun kneel on rugs in the dusty street.

The cleric's inclusive message is fitting for the peaceful city about 180 km (110 miles) southeast of Baghdad. "Iraqis must choose an Iraqi government for all the people that can represent all different Iraqis from all different areas," Abdul Al Iesawi said over loudspeakers.

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The homecoming (exiles return to a 'happy, free Iraq') ~ 9/18

For some Londoners, the war against Saddam wasn't just about politics. It was about the future of their homeland - and the chance to return to it. Johann Hari meets three young exiles who have just had their first taste of life in 'free' Iraq.

... "We were so scared that we might have been wrong. We kept thinking, 'What if we get there and everybody hates us for supporting the war?' But it was amazing: almost everyone we met was more hawkish than us. All over the country, even people who really hated the Americans agreed it would have been a disaster if the war had been called off." Yasser said: "One of the first things my uncle said to me was that his greatest fear in the run-up to the war was that the Americans would do what they did in 1991 and leave us to Saddam."

 
...Yasser admits: "The first fortnight, I was really, really depressed. Everyone in Iraq had been totally conditioned to wait to be told what to do by the state. Anybody with initiative got tortured or killed by Saddam, so people just waited for orders. So even after the liberation, they couldn't understand that they were free; they didn't know what it meant. But then I saw that gradually they were realising, and that day by day they were sort of defrosting." 

.. "These are going to be the seeds of democracy," Yasser explains. "Once you learn to argue against people instead of killing them as Saddam did, you're on your way. We explained to the university students that they could have different newspapers - and even have different opinions in the same newspapers - and it seemed totally surreal to them. They just couldn't understand it. But when they realised that it really was possible and nobody was going to punish them, they were so excited that they were just obsessed.

"They were in the middle of their exams and supposed to be studying, but they insisted on writing and photocopying a newsletter that they distributed everywhere. They wrote articles on amazing things they could find out about on the internet - philosophy and art and the difference between proportional representation and first-past-the-post! It was the best thing in my life, seeing that," Yasser says.

...Sama explains: "We took a group of university students to a workshop arranged by a Washington-based organisation about how to set up NGOs [non-governmental organisations]. To you or me it would seem incredibly basic, but to them it was a revelation. They hadn't understood that you could set up your own organisation, without any orders or permission from anyone. They thought societies and charities were something the state did to you, something secretive and conspiratorial, not something people create for themselves. It was beautiful to see this happening."

The most biting disappointment facing the IPO members, however, has been the fact that when Saddam's vast prisons were opened, none of the hundreds of thousands of missing people emerged alive. Abtehale's grandmother suffered a second stroke when it became obvious to her a week after the liberation that her missing son, husband and nephew were not going to appear, traumatised but alive. Yasser's mother still refers to her missing brother and sister as "imprisoned". He says: "I try to tell her that there are no more prisons to be opened up, that they're gone and she has to grieve. But she can't bear to hear it."

Tens of thousands of Iraqis are making a weekly pilgrimage to Kadhimiya, where a human rights centre has been set up to log on computer the names of all the hundreds of thousands of people executed by the regime. They have six million files to work through, seized when the regime fell. They have processed two hundred thousand so far. Abtehale went there searching for her grandfather and uncle. So far, they seem to have vanished without record into Saddam's vast torture machine.

...Yasser says quietly: "The day after the liberation, my aunt put out a black banner [an Arab mourning ritual] with the names of all her relatives who had been murdered by the regime on it. And she looked down her street, and there were black banners on almost every house. On some houses it looks like a long shopping list. She said to her neighbour, 'You too?' Under Saddam it was a crime to mourn people killed by the regime - it made you seem suspicious too. Everyone was suffering terribly, but they were suffering alone. They just didn't know that everyone else was hating it too." Even now, people are only just coming to terms with the massive crimes that have been committed against them. Sama talked to a group at a university about her family's experiences. Afterwards, a girl approached her and whispered: "You were deported? I have never told anyone this before, but my uncle was deported too." Sama explained that more than two million people had been deported by the Baathists, and there was no shame in it. The girl had had no idea.

...Yet hope was restored by their trip to Northern Iraq. "It was like going into a different world," Sama says, her eyes welling up. "It's beautiful. It looks like part of Europe. It's totally free and efficient and secure and democratic. It was so encouraging, because at the end of [the first] Gulf War it was just like the rest of Iraq. We could make progress like that in the next decade. We brought one of my cousins with us, and he cried and said: 'Is this my country? Is this really part of Iraq?'"

There is a terrible fear among many Iraqis that they will not be able to match the Kurds' achievement if they are abandoned by the Americans once again. "The memories of 1991 are so vivid," says Sama. "People still fear that somehow the Americans will abandon us and Saddam will claw his way back from the grave. They say, 'It happened in 1991, it could happen again.' That's one crucial reason why people are reluctant to cooperate with the coalition." She adds: "I find it absolutely incredible that the anti-war people are now calling for the coalition to leave straight away. Nobody in Iraq wants that. The opinion polls show it's just 13 per cent. Don't they care about the Iraqi people and what they want at all? This isn't a game. This isn't about poking a stick at George Bush. This is our lives."

As for those who blame every problem in Iraq on the legacy of sanctions, Sama has little time for them. "Iraqis aren't stupid," she says. "They know that Northern Iraq was under sanctions, too, and none of the terrible things that happened under Saddam, like dying babies, went on there. Most people call them 'Saddam's sanctions'. The real issue was Saddam's tyranny, and the way he used sanctions like he used everything else to strengthen his rule."

Swinging her legs, happy and relaxed like I have never seen her before, Sama says: "If we hadn't been to Iraq, we'd be really depressed right now. I came back, saw the news and thought, 'Are they talking about the same Iraq?'" Is this, I wonder, because the media can only deal with Arabs as victims or terrorists? The IPO members don't think so. Rather, Yasser says, there are several reasons why the reporting from Iraq is stressing the negative over the positive. "First, buildings being bombed is a much better story than the formation of the Baghdad city council to clear up the rubbish and sort out the sewers. Angry Iraqis make a better story than hopeful Iraqis."

"Second, a lot of the media was openly anti-war, so now that there are hundreds of thousands of mass graves being opened up and all the evidence shows that the Iraqis supported [the war], the media are latching on to the few things, like the looting and, of course, the weapons issue - that was always a red herring - that seem to vindicate their position. And third - I know this sounds like a petty point, but it's very important - a lot of journalists are using the same guides and translators that they used before the war, because they know them. They don't seem to realise that those people were carefully selected by the regime because of their loyalty to Saddam's line. So most journalists are getting a totally distorted picture."

..Yasser adds: "There's something I'd like to say to your readers. People who really care about Iraqis should join us in fighting for democracy in Iraq and for the debts accumulated by Saddam to be cancelled. Join Jubilee Iraq [a group campaigning against Saddam's debt, contactable at www.jubileeiraq.org]. Argue for the Governing Council to be strengthened. Support us. Don't spend your time hoping that Iraq fails just so you feel better about opposing the war."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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 Thanks, Tonkin!

1 posted on 09/21/2003 12:10:13 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: MJY1288; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; Coop; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER; ...
Excerpts from recent articles, giving the Iraqi people a voice.

The troops, I find, like these a lot. The press and Dem. politicians, I find, don't.

If you want on or off my PRO-coalition ping list, please Freepmail me. Warning: it is a high volume ping list on good days. (Most days are good days). All links are added to my homepage, link above.

2 posted on 09/21/2003 12:16:22 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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*Bump*

She adds: "I find it absolutely incredible that the anti-war people are now calling for the coalition to leave straight away. Nobody in Iraq wants that. The opinion polls show it's just 13 per cent. Don't they care about the Iraqi people and what they want at all? This isn't a game. This isn't about poking a stick at George Bush. This is our lives."

3 posted on 09/21/2003 12:29:08 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Iraqis are clearly still upset that other Arabs were able to study in Iraq, effectively on former President Saddam Hussein’s payroll. Iraqis have had enough of seeing their own lives compromised for the benefit of Arabs from neighbouring countries."

"Iraqis saw other Arabs benefit from the Baath regime, while they were left to suffer."

Those of us who are tired of seeing our lives compromised for the benefit of illegal aliens feel the exact same way. Especially those white or asian citizens who can count on being discriminated against because of their skin color regarding college admission, in favor of illegals and other chosen minorities.

4 posted on 09/21/2003 12:29:39 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
What a great read, Girl! Thanks for posting it.

Nam Vet

5 posted on 09/21/2003 12:31:54 PM PDT by Nam Vet (It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The News the Press isn't telling you bump
6 posted on 09/21/2003 12:38:45 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Click...click...click...damn, out of taglines!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
many thanks again, for the great posts!

Now if we could get even Fox to cover this in depth instead of Laci Peterson or Kobe Bryant, it would be nice.

7 posted on 09/21/2003 12:54:58 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
*Bump!

The letter from the grateful Iraqi to Pan Yans Wife is a must read.
8 posted on 09/21/2003 12:56:59 PM PDT by Ex-Dem (Lapsed RAT)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
For a factually honest appraisal of the current situation in Iraq, click below for a comparison between Iraq in 2003-04 and the occupation of Germany in 1945-46. The American press is wildly inaccurate and incompetent in reporting this story. Some of that is a matter of laziness; the rest is due to deliberate bias.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Lessons for Iraq from General Washington, Major Andre, and Der Fuhrer Adolf Hitler," discussion thread on FR. Article is also on ChronWatch.

9 posted on 09/21/2003 1:07:41 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; I am doing something about it.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks, my son is in Kuwait now ready to go into Iraq with some of the 82nd replacements. We need to keep up these positive stories as the media is providing only "quagmire alerts".
10 posted on 09/21/2003 1:18:56 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Great excerpts ~ Bump!
11 posted on 09/21/2003 3:06:48 PM PDT by blackie
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To: jonsie
We are so proud of the the work the troops are doing. Please tell your son there are many people finding and sharing the good news from Iraq. We're keeping track ~ and we won't quit.
12 posted on 09/21/2003 3:57:31 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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To: Yardstick
''Don't they care about the Iraqi people and what they want at all? This isn't a game. This isn't about poking a stick at George Bush. This is our lives."

Powerful quote. It is a wonder the 'caring' left doesn't see how cruel they are being to the Iraqi people every day they undermine our efforts in Iraq.

13 posted on 09/21/2003 3:59:41 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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To: Nam Vet
My pleasure, Nam. Glad you liked it. Sending it to a few others in America ~ and Iraq.
14 posted on 09/21/2003 4:11:21 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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RC, you knock it over the fence again!!! excellent post!
15 posted on 09/21/2003 5:44:15 PM PDT by CGVet58 (For my fellow Americans; my life... for our enemies; The Sword!!!)
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Thank you, CG! I think the free Iraqi press will like this. The puffed-up elites don't listen to them, either.
16 posted on 09/21/2003 8:05:53 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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"The troops, I find, like these a lot. The press and Dem. politicians, I find, don't."

GOOD!!

17 posted on 09/21/2003 8:18:21 PM PDT by windchime
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
18 posted on 09/21/2003 8:53:58 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; windchime

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 Baghdad's Laffer Curve-The governing council comes out in favor of free trade and low taxes. 9/21/03

...The new Iraqi Finance Minister, Kamel al-Gailani, has just announced that the country's highest marginal tax rates will be 15% -- on both individual and corporate income.

Mr. al-Gailani disclosed this and other pro-growth economic policies yesterday at the IMF-World Bank meetings in Dubai. Iraq will impose a uniform import tariff at the sensibly low rate of 5%, except on clothing, medicine, food and books, on which the rate will be zero. "Free trade will be a critical element to Iraq's future economic growth," according to the Finance Ministry's summary of the proposals.

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Amb. Bremer listens to the Iraqi people. He was right:

"In terms of what kind of economic system they wish to establish, as you point out, the Ba'athist Party was a socialist party. I think it's very hard to imagine any strong support in this country for a return to that economic system, which has left the country really flat on its back, and which does not really provide a model for getting the kind of vibrant private sector which I think most Iraqis now realize is a sine qua non for a stable economy and stable economic growth. So if they choose socialism, that will be their business. My guess is that's not going to happen." ~ Amb. Paul Bremer  - Briefing on Coalition Post-war Reconstruction and Stabilization Efforts, 6/12.

Explains much of the noise from the pro-UN/socialist, anti-'Iraqi people' factions and their PR agents in the press, don't you think?

19 posted on 09/22/2003 6:08:44 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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To: Diogenesis
A few quagmire-free thinking Iraqis.
20 posted on 09/22/2003 6:51:05 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("I was taught to love America." ~ Freeper 'Bullish', '60s LA public school.)
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