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To: tpaine
You demonstrated no history or truth in your namecalling at #173.

With due respect sir, it is your position, assertion and reply I declared excrement, notably your repetitious quote from Koestler that insults all people of Faith, and even the Founder's themselves:

"The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause........"

To which I replied that such a quote to make your point was not only innacurate in the face of our history, but a bold-faced pile of excrement in the light of our Founders' actual words and statements.

The history and truth is contained in the quotes from the Founders themselves that I provided above to prove my case. Quotes that you have completely ignored and disregarded.

My dedication to the history and truth of our constitution is evidenced by over five years of posting here on that subject.

Thusfar on this subject and discussion I am hardly impressed. You have not addressed ONE quotation from our Founders that renders your position moot and in error.

Feel free to challenge my actual words on those truths.

I already have and proven them falsehoods by the very words of the Founder's themselves. Thusfar you haven't proven anything you've provided as a truth, save that quote from Koestler you keep pushing as some kind of venerable wisdom that the Founder's themselves would have considered rubbish.

Take you BS to the backroom.

After you sir, after you.

179 posted on 09/22/2003 1:23:32 PM PDT by INVAR
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To: INVAR
Your assertation that Koestlers lines about fanatics "insults all people of faith" is just more ludicrous empty rhetoric.

I suggest you get some new lines of your own. They become more bizarre by the post.
-- Years ago I learned that 'quote wars' are futile. Anyone can search & find, and 'prove' virtually anything with the written words of our founders.
They corresponded a lot, and unless their words are read in context, can easily be misconstrued.
184 posted on 09/22/2003 2:22:42 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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