Where did the President and his Grandparents get their money?

Vanity | 9/20/03 | Vainty

[solo gringo]

"I am serious i need some help.



Tell them like i told my son-in-law they worked for it.And if you expect to have any your going to have to work and he fainted.

[Princeliberty]

Is wasn't a poem and poem's don't have to rhyme.

[Yaelle]

Harrison told less lies (but used more Kleenex).

[Yaelle]

...on a path that will make them richer than Midas

Wow! So all the White House sinks are made of GOLD!

[Yaelle]

His medical residency, aportion of which was served with Planned Parenthood, is also being kept very low key...he supposedly doesn't want to discuss that as well. He may actually be our first abortionist major party cadidate.

Wow. I did not know that. Wherever voters fall on the abortion issue, you have to wonder about a President who has actually PERFORMED many HIMSELF. Good L-rd. Is he the same one who dissected pet cats? He could run on the Jeffrey Dahmer ticket.

[george wythe]

Teach your son to do the research by himself. Take him to library to check out books by both anti-Bush biographers and pro-Bush biographers (most of the trustworthy information is not available in the Internet), teach him to research magazine articles, and finally, show him to use the Internet

Give a person a fish, and he will be fed for a day.

Teach a person to fish, and he will be fed for a lifetime.

Seize a teaching moment.

[MattAMiller]

Here's a Straight Dope column ont his subject.

[undeniable logic]

It seems to a level we agree. I have never tried to imply that what GWB did was illegal. Obviously, it was perfectly legal. I just firmly believe that it doesn't coincide with the conservative values we wish he espouses. I have always been a strong conservative and my father has told me many times that it easy to be conservative when I benefit by being so. The challenge is to remain true to my beliefs when I do not benefit. In GWB's case, he appears to be conservative in rhetoric and in certain battles that he has waged, but he definitely abandoned his conservatism when he was able to benefit through the stadium deal.

You know ... I am always pissed when liberals defend liberals no matter what. For instance, Clinton on the lying under oath. McDermott bashing the US in Iraq. I really wish that we conservatives did not defend Republicans no matter what. GWB is definitely better than all of his democrat opponents. I will definitely be voting for him in the next election. This being said, I definitely think that although what he did with the stadium was legal, it was wrong; and although I can defend what he did from the legal perspective, I remain firm in my opposition to it. And d*mn it, I wish more conservatives here wouldn't feel guilty admitting the same.

[weegee]

I'm not trying to make excuses for George W. Bush and his dealings with the Texas Rangers. I am dismissing some of the reported details as false (when the selloff figure is anywhere between $10 and $50 million dollars, there is a lot of exageration going on). In 3 years or 30 years, the land becomes "private owned". Well, we are long past 3 years since that stadium was built, is it in private hands now?

Civic stadiums are always a questionable deal. I don't understand why the new football stadium reportedly only cost $260+million (somewhere under $300million) yet Reliant Energy paid $300million for the naming rights. Why didn't they just build a stadium? And why does the team owner get paid (on an installment plan) instead of the city that owns the building?

I don't offer this out there as a defense. I'm saying that some of what is rumored is not always true. I also know that the number of privately owned stadiums is virtually nil. Can one partial team owner buck the trend and build a private owned stadium when the team already has a publicly owned stadium? That would be difficult to sell to the investors (especially when they know that they could move the team to another town that would pay to build them a stadium).

[Ready4Freddy]

TBA will be conveyed to the owners in 2006. Club is paying $5 mil / yr rent & maintenance, and the payments are applied toward the 'purchase price' of $60 mil (some ~$110 mil less than the cost to build). Since the rent & maint payments are SOP, the conveyance will be, in effect, an outright giveaway.

After that, the sales tax bump will still be in effect, and payments on the construction bonds will still need to be made on a property that the public no longer owns.

[weegee]

The rent on the Astrodomain (Astrodome and surrounding complex I belive was included) was a nominal figure of $1. That property was rented to the owner of the Houston Astros (and it was still under contract to the team owner when the new baseball field was built miles away from the property).

This goes back over 35 years in team history to the way things were done. Maintenance was a part of that agreement, but guess what, the team owner did not hold up his part of the bargain and the locals had to pay millions in repairs.

How is the Arlington deal different than other cities?

[Ready4Freddy]

"How is the Arlington deal different than other cities?"

The owners of the Rangers will own the stadium, and several hundred acres of prime real estate, lock, stock, and barrel (or, if you prefer, in fee simple :) after 12 years of 'rent to own' payments that will total ~40-45% of what the stadium cost the taxpayers to build. That is highly unusual.

Harris County still owns the Astrodome complex, IIRC.

[Jaidyn]

What Prescot Bush and other companies did in the forties is no different than what today's companies have been doing, especially since 1993, that is, moving to China and other slave labor, less-than-savory nations. We are helping their economies at the expense of our own, at least presently. Hopefully, down the road there is a pay off, providing displaced workers get retrained and educated and the beat goes on......Otherwise, China will be able to kick our butts with our own money.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

We have had only two HONEST presidents, in my opinion. Abraham Lincoln and Herbert Hoover.

Andrew Jackson

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

Prescott Bush made his money as an investment banker in Connecticut. Only after he was a successful banker did he enter politics. He won a special election in 1952 to finish the term of James McMahon who died in office. He then ran and won re-election to another full term. Afterwards he went back to banking.

Yes, 10 years of his life spent in politics and he was a lifelong politician, wasn't he?