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Ancient River Found Flowing Beneath Toronto
Reuters/Yahoo ^ | 9-19-2003

Posted on 09/19/2003 2:54:36 PM PDT by blam

Ancient River Found Flowing Beneath Toronto

TORONTO (Reuters) - A river runs through it -- wide, deep, cold and ancient -- and few people in Toronto suspect it's even there.

There's an ice-age river flowing deep under Canada's largest city. There has been for at least a million years but it wasn't until last month that anyone saw any real evidence of it.

The discovery of the glacial river happened when workers were trying to cap two artesian wells, part of a stormwater runoff project in High Park, one of the city's largest parks, near the shore of Lake Ontario.

One well was capped, and then, as the other was being capped, the first well blew off like a broken water main, spewing water 15 feet into the air.

As that cap was being repaired, the second blew off, shooting up water and gravel.

Consultation with experts confirmed the workers had siphoned into the rumored, yet still largely unknown, Laurentian River system running underneath the city.

"We've discovered where it probably comes out into Lake Ontario," said an elated Bill Snodgrass, senior engineer responsible for groundwater quality management for the city of Toronto. "What we never really knew before was where it connected to Lake Ontario."

The existence of a bedrock valley was first documented in the first half of the century, but its exact location remained largely unknown, said Steve Holysh, a hydrogeologist working on the project.

It was likely formed one to five million years ago when layers of debris carried by glaciers covered up the bedrock valley.

In tests done in August, researchers at the High Park site expected to hit bedrock at about 40 feet, but it wasn't until a depth of 123 feet that they hit the river system, technically known as an artesian aquifer. They hit bedrock at 145 feet.

The water flows extremely slowly in a sand and gravel stratum, which could be a 20- to 30-foot layer on top of bedrock.

It would take thousands of years for the water to travel to Toronto from the groundwater system's origin. City hydrogeologists say the Laurentian travels at the stunningly slow rate of about one centimeter a year.

It's origin is likely near Georgian Bay, about 93 miles north of Toronto.

The water is drinkable, but it tastes distinctly of iron, and the city of Toronto has no plans to tap the underground river as a source of drinking water.


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancient; flowing; river; toronto
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1 posted on 09/19/2003 2:54:38 PM PDT by blam
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To: farmfriend
Ping.
2 posted on 09/19/2003 2:56:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Interesting.
3 posted on 09/19/2003 2:58:06 PM PDT by Dog
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To: blam
Typical of Canada, they have millions of gallons of water, ready to be made into a product and they don't even sell it. /sarcasm off
4 posted on 09/19/2003 3:01:47 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Dog
the Styx?
5 posted on 09/19/2003 3:03:44 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Dog
the Styx?
6 posted on 09/19/2003 3:03:44 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: blam
man, why did I think upon reading the title and thinking "What?" ... did I say to myself... hmmmm this sounds like something blam woul... oh.
7 posted on 09/19/2003 3:03:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: blam
This is fascinating. Now I'm wondering what life forms live there if any.
8 posted on 09/19/2003 3:04:32 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: blam
D'ya suppose that if someone tapped that river and drained it, maybe, just maybe, Toronto would disappear down a sinkhole?

Not that I would ever advocate such a thing. This is just scientific curiosity.

9 posted on 09/19/2003 3:04:35 PM PDT by LibKill (Leaving the toilet seat up improves your household feng shui.)
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To: blam
That must be the Yellow River.
10 posted on 09/19/2003 3:05:40 PM PDT by doyle
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To: Republicus2001
have you been to mamouth caves in kentucky? they've got a river (way underground) called styx.

home of the alice fish (it's a local dialect thing... took me a while to find out they were really saying 'eyeless' fish).
11 posted on 09/19/2003 3:05:47 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: blam
Toronto actually has a number of buried creeks, filled in and routed through storm and sewer drains as the city grew and the creeks became unsanitary quagmires.

Garrison Creek, which used to run through the heart of the city past Fort York to Lake Ontario, now runs through the sewer system. Taddle Creek used to flow through Queen's Park and the campus of the University of Toronto (there is a Taddle Creek Circle on the campus, but the creek is long gone.)

12 posted on 09/19/2003 3:12:31 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: blam
Canada, leading the world at being just North of the USA and now, owner of the slowest river on earth. What will the think of next?
13 posted on 09/19/2003 3:15:10 PM PDT by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: Loyalist
Interesting info, thanks.
14 posted on 09/19/2003 3:18:03 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Bump.
15 posted on 09/19/2003 3:21:55 PM PDT by manna
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To: Republicus2001
Pick up Styx?

The iron in that water can give you tendonitis! Just ask Achilles!

16 posted on 09/19/2003 3:23:57 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: blam
Hydrology and hydraulics has always been one of my favorite subjects.
This is fascinating.
17 posted on 09/19/2003 3:26:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: q_an_a
Just think what kind of paradise Canada would be if it wasn't for Quebec!

Well I guess everybody has 'family' problems LOL.

18 posted on 09/19/2003 3:29:25 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: blam
Hey, I got one of them prehistoric rivers running right under my house...That's where my well is plumbed into...No one has ever gotten excited over it tho...
19 posted on 09/19/2003 3:35:02 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: glock rocks
Great post - Glock. Used to live 30 mins away from
Mammoth cave in Bowling Green, KY. Them folks there
do talk funny, but they's good folks, there, for sure,
most of 'em.
20 posted on 09/19/2003 3:36:40 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Corvette museum and plant are right nearby too!)
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