"Recall Politics Dominate the California Republican Party Convention"

ChronWatch ^ | Sept. 17, 2003 | Cinnamon Stillwell

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

You don't even have to register to attend. There were tons of people there with no ID tags. In other words, you didn't need a "ticket" to get in

There was a recorded message on my answering machine the other day from Arnold Schwarzeneggar inviting me and my family to attend the convention. Too bad I was out of town on business or I would have come out with many...uh, signs about his campaign for Governor...

[BillyBoy]

Kind reminds me of the IL GOP party bosses FAWNING over Gov. George Ryan (RINO) after he passed the largest tax increase in state history and said Mayor Daley was his "hero". Ol' George had about a 20% "approval" rating among GRASSROOT Republicans, but the country-club bosses knew BETTER than them.

Of course, their efforts to defend scumbag George tooth-and-nail caused the state GOP to get wiped out in 2002. Oh well.

[FairOpinion]

We can keep going round and round about a zillion things, but we have to deal with bottom line FACTS. We have less than 3 weeks until the election.

1. Due to California demographics, Tom has ZERO chance at beating Bustamante, even if he ran alone against Bustamante, hence this scnario would certainly give us Bustamante or Davis (people voting against the recall, because they are afraid of Cruz).

2. With 2 R candidate, Arnold may have a problem with beating Bustamante, again we'll end up with Davis or Bustamante.

3. Arnold CAN beat Bustamante, if Tom drops out and his supporters don't stay home, but vote for Arnold, the Republican, against Bustamante and Davis, who are the "real terminators of California" as Arnold said. THIS IS THE ONLY SCENARIO WITH THE MAXIMUM CHANCE OF UNSEATING DAVIS AND DEFEATING BUSTAMANTE.

Cartoon is by "Registered" and says it all -- as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

We have less than 3 weeks until the election.

We do?

Due to California demographics, Tom has ZERO chance at beating Bustamante

Just like Reagan.

With 2 R candidate, Arnold may have a problem with beating Bustamante

What in the world are you talking about? Everybody is voting for (R)nold because he agrees with all Californians about everything...ever, except for the closeminded, stupid, racist, sexist, bigotted, homophobic ultra conservative McClintock voters.

Arnold CAN beat Bustamante

That's more like it, there's the unbridled arrogance and overconfidence of the (R)nold Groupies I've come to know and love.

who are the "real terminators of California" as Arnold said.

Come on now, just for a split second, isn't there some nook or cranny in your soul when you quote this Snake Oil Salesmen with empty cliches that feels the LEAST bit silly?

Cartoon is by "Registered" and says it all -- as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Yes is sure does, I already confronted Registered about it earlier but he ran away, its coming dangerously close to ripping off this cartoon from 9/2/03, and yes indeed considering alienating the base, those things say it all.

[DoctorZIn]

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[Canticle_of_Deborah]

There was a recorded message on my answering machine the other day from Arnold Schwarzeneggar

My mom got one of those today instructing her to vote no on 54 (thanks for nothing Arnie) and send in her absentee ballot right away with a vote for Arnold.

She doesn't vote by absentee.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

My mom got one of those today instructing her to vote no on 54 (thanks for nothing Arnie) and send in her absentee ballot right away with a vote for Arnold.

Wait a tic, I thought Captain Electable was still "studying" the issue and the reports that he was against it "never happened"...Course that depends on which statement you believe because I heard he wasn't actually lying about not remembering the Oui article, its just that he had lied and exagerated about some of it when he first gave the interview in order to generate interest in Pumping Iron so that of course made it harder to remember. You need a scorecard to keep up with (R)nold's stances, my goodness, when are the (R)nold Groupies going to wake up that this is Clinton II?

She doesn't vote by absentee.

Yeah, I got that picture too on the absentee balot. Must be because I am a registered Republican who voted absentee once. What a bunch of blather, talking about being the People's Governor and whatnot. It's the same old cliches, I had it up on my fridge, everytime I saw it I thought of Back To The Future and how the cliches of Mayor Red Thomas in 1955 and Mayor Goldie Wilson in 1985 were nearly identically vague and pushing the same buttons.

[ElkGroveDan]

My mom got one of those today instructing her to vote no on 54 (thanks for nothing Arnie) and send in her absentee ballot right away with a vote for Arnold.

That's actually quite astounding that he has gone from not supporting it to actively campaigning against it.

Arnie-bots? What say you? Let's hear the 'scuses.

[thoughtomator]

Straw poll = BS, sample too small, method unreliable, poll-takers stridently partisan. Also it doesn't fit at all with other polls indicating (R)nold support in the GOP under 40 percent. In other news, Saddam Hussein gets 100% of the vote in Iraq... all Iraqis therefore love Saddam, Q.E.D.

[SierraWasp]

I'll tell ya why I'm a "Die Hard" for McClintock. A lot of it goes along with what you said, but in addition to that, just like my neighbor said to me just before my re-election day... "What's in it for me?"

I feel the same way now as when I held my nose and desperately tried to stifle the gag reflex and voted for Wilson. Both Mrs. Wasp and I decided right then and there that we were never gonna to THAT again. His terms that followed and the way he sold out everything we believe in was proof enough to us as a couple with NORMAL self-interest!!!

There was NOTHING in it for US!!! BOHICA, except that "fool me once... shame on you... fool me twice... SHAME ON ME!" I'm not goin there again and that's why I'm a fed-up "Die Hard!" If any of the Schwarzenegger Swooners can't grasp that, they don't understand a Phyrric Victory, or that continual appeasement just gets you an eventual appeaseotomy!!!

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

But isn’t it better to institute some of your political principles, rather than none?

So Moses should have done a poll beforehand and checked out which of the commandments would go down well with the people? If we go with Arnold he will redefine the Republican party in California and principled conservatives will increasingly be labeled "right-wing crazies". Being pro-abortion used to be enough that a Republican candidate would be shown the door. I guess times change; but principles don’t.

[Registered]

I already confronted Registered about it earlier but he ran away, its coming dangerously close to ripping off this cartoon

Ran away? LOL. The world you are living in is not real. I knew LA let the mentally disturbed out on the streets, but now I know they also have internet access.

[republicanwizard]

THAT IS GREAT!

[republicanwizard]

Oh give me a break. Reagan won in a very different California. That was 1966. Get with it. That's like a Democrat claiming that he will be elected in the South because Democrats won in 1966 in the South.

I mean, really now. McClintock is no Reagan. Reagan didn't have a holier than thou zealot attitude towards either his party or government.

[FairOpinion]

"My mom got one of those today instructing her to vote no on 54 (thanks for nothing Arnie) and send in her absentee ballot right away with a vote for Arnold."

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I got a recorded message from Arnold too. NOTHING was said about Prop 54. He said to vote for the recall and for him, naturally. It was a very polite, nice message.

It also doesn't make sense that he would bother with Prop. 54 -- he is focused on the recall and winning.

Perhaps your Mother misunderstood.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

There was nothing to misunderstand. She told me immediately after she received the call. She stated "That was an Arnold Schwarzeneggar recording. He said to vote no on 54 and to send in an absentee ballot and vote for him."

There was no misunderstanding that. I'm sure he taped more than one message.

[poet]

All the polls will NOT change my vote for McClintock. Arnold should withdraw and give California a REAL choice and not just another democrat lite RINO. Arnold wants pre-prepared questions at the debate, and that shows me that he is weak in his inablity to answer questions without preparations.

How any "conservative" can even think of voting for this guy is beyond me. He doesn't even accept the long standing basic tenets of the REAL Republican Party, you know the one I mean, the one with Principles and not the small r moderns a/k/a Democrat Lite.

Go McClintock, let's give them an October surprise that they won't soon forget.

If any of you have personal contact with Arnold, please ask him for me to withdraw
Thanking you in advance, I remain,

a McClintock voter.

[FairOpinion]

Well, why don't you read this and tell us, if you really want to still be a McClintock voter.

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985257/posts
Bustamante, McClintock (team up) threaten to quit debate (joint letter demanding rules be changed)

Aides to Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante and Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock said they agreed to send jointly a letter to the California Broadcasters Association asking for the format change.

(even Arianna and Camejo didn't agree to sign it)

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And:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985238/posts

A Phone Call in Need of Instant Replay (Sen. Burton calls McClintock -- what really happened)

Burton, one of the more conservative members of Congress, also said McClintock had seemed to suggest that it would be acceptable for a Democrat to hold the governor's office, because he might create a clamor for a Republican in 2006.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Oh give me a break. Reagan won in a very different California

I'll give you a break in that I can't possibly take you seriously. How are you supposed to know what is different about my home from across the country in Penn? The only break you deserve is that you supposedly support the same party as I do, other than that I have no breaks for you.

I mean, really now. McClintock is no Reagan. Reagan didn't have a holier than thou zealot attitude towards either his party or government.

Another reason to not take you seriously, you put forth circular arguements then beat strawmen. Reagan won because his supporters didn't hurt his detractors feelings? Grow up.

A liberal Republican actually ran in the 80 election and took about 7%, yet Reagan still won. There was all kinds of consternation in 76 about Reagan's Conservatives destroying the Party from the RINOs of his day for running against Ford. Yet the next time he won, then the time after that he won in one of the biggest landslides in US history despite the press' best effort. He redefined that Party, but you people are still supporting the next Gerald Ford who couldn't articulate conservative ideals if life itself depended on it in a world gone mad.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

The world you are living in is not real

Then I'll say I'm still waiting on an answer to post 90, big boy.

I knew LA let the mentally disturbed out on the streets, but now I know they also have internet access

But I thought I wasn't really in LA and that I was part of a DU conspiracy to push a more conservative candidate that couldn't win over the electable one, which is something to post "LOL" about from an Alan Keyes supporter, Registered.

p.s. How did your tattle tailing work out?