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9/11/03 | TomasUSMC

Posted on 09/18/2003 11:09:59 AM PDT by TomasUSMC

Illegal Immigration. - Both parties allow it. Deporting is no use if we don't have borders to keep them out. Its like throwing someone out of the bank, but leaving the windows and doors wide open 24/7! When these Illegals get to America they pay some state and federal taxes AND the bigger companies who employ them (I personally saw - La Salsa Resturant chain- in California), sometimes pay federal payroll taxes. BUT, when these illegals need medical services, educational services or God forbid Law Enforcement guidance, these services are almost entirely born by the STATES. Thus, the federal Government gets all the benefits and none of the negatives and the STATES get some of the benefits and ALL OF THE NEGATIVES. Humm now who is it that has the responsibility to control the borders and consequently the Illegals? Wouldn't you know it - the Feds! Now we see the states issueing drivers licenses and consular documents. Why? The states are beginning to see the money trail and they want to tap into it also. These forms of identification are going to be called gateway documents to Banking. Not just banking but many other avenues of investing in State governed and taxable areas. Now instead of wiring this cash to the foreign country, they can put in the bank right here. They can buy big dollars items, get credit. All these are financial transactions that go through the state. Mo money. You know when you put it this way, looking at it from strictly a factual financial point of you, it sounds sound. EXCEPT, we are not dealing with just math, but MAN. Did you know that now in the overun parts of our country, you can only get employment if : you speak spanish, english is a plus. And if you are illegal. I'm talking from what I have seen in posh resturant chains in San Diego not just little shacks selling tacos. That will not show up in any fiscal balance sheet. Neither will the myraid of other tendencies that have taken hold, such as: ... the disdain Illegals have for a country grown so lazy, so lacking in pride, that it tolerates such disrespect to it border, to its language, to it Flag. I personally cannot find reason to blame someone comming into a country that offers such riches, from a country so desolate as Mexico, Guatemala etc., when there is very little to lose compared to what can be gained. Sure a few die in the desert, but compared to the millions that make it, well I would take the same chance.Especially considering the fact that if you get caught, the only thing the gringo does is place you back across an invisible, unprotected border, so you can cross over again the very next day! If America had low unemployment and we needed people, then the price might be tolerable, but Americans are losing their jobs to outsourcing, H1B visas, companies moving entirely away, trade policies that pit our workers against not just slave workers, but slave workers in the worlds largest country, which also happens to be COMMUNIST! Ridiculous enviromental and animal rights regulations. ( In San Diego's North Island Naval Base, part of the Navy's airfield is cordened off so some dumb ass bird can lay eggs there. Even though anybody will tell you they havn't seen a bird there in ages. ) And now our people are told that they are lazy and won't do some types of Labor ie., picking agriculture ect. Well it seems that you just might have to start paying more for vegetables and milk. Or better yet build a damn robot to do it. We have robots building computer chips, building cars and collecting rocks on MARS, you mean to tell me picking an orange orange from a green tree is to difficult? Please. This nevertheless does not address the issue of building a good work ethic among the young. I say raise the pay if you have too, stop foreign agricultural products at the border. Its better to work on the farm, make money and pay more for food, therefore maintaining the consumer base spending which is what feeds the economic engine, than not having a job, not having money and not eating! But don't for a minute think that its just the low end jobs that are disappearing. Both political parties are constantly supporting the H1B visa program. This is a program that brings in foreign workers to take jobs here that require at least a 4 year degree, and they can stay for up to 6 years at that job. How many? The law has a cap of 200,000 per year, but because of exceptions, the total for just 2000 and 2001 was - 799,000. Thats 800 THOUSAND hi tech jobs in two years! Thats 4 times the size of the entire United States Marine Corp. This does not count the L1 visas for international companies in this country, which was another 400,000. Thats 1.2 million in 24 months or 12,500 every single week! Another aspect of Illegal immigration is that of population replacement. Many of our opponents state that the white population is not having enough, ah, humm how should I put it, they are not having enough kids. This is no doubt the case. Pat Buchanan came out with a book that was dead on with this issue. But if that is the case, then just increase LEGAL immigration. God knows the pool of eligible willing candidates is about 3 billion and growing. With LEGAL immigration, the immigrant joins our country with respect for U.S., as well as self respect. And his stay here is one of obeying the law - BECAUSE HE HAS RESPECT FOR THE LAW- the law has brought him in to this great country, it will protect him, and reward him in 5 years with the most desired citizenship on the planet! The illegal is constantly running from the law, exsists because of his disdain for it and his stay here is one that only continues thru his daily disobeying the law.

Abortion and Homosexuality - Litmus Test for any Democrat Yes, the democratic party does have a litmus test. I would dare say that it is impossible to find a democrat running for a national senate, house, and of course White House, that is not Pro Choice, and Pro Homosexual. The GOP of course does not have this or any test for that matter. Both of these policies are politics of death. Statistically 25 to 35 percent( the percentage is highest among americans of african decent) of all pregancies end in abortion, 3000 a day at least. (Thats the same number of americans who died in 911 everyday for the last quarter century) Matter of fact, if you do the math, you will find that if abortion had not been legalized, the babies born that would now be of voting age and older, would closely equal - the number of illegal immgrant today! Add to this the attempts to legitimize homosexuality, with all its terrible health aspects - TB, AIDS, not to mention of course the effect it has on even further reducing the domestic births and we can see the tie in between abortion, homosexuality, Illegal immigration and the destruction from within.

Islamic Terrorism. Most people define 911 as the day Islamic Terrorist attacked the WTC. Thats wrong 911 was the day Islamic Terrorist attacked the WTC- the SECOND TIME! I think President Bush has shown the true sacred heart of Christianity by using conventional land forces to minimize civilian casualties in these countries at the expense of our military casualties. But in the future is there any doubt that we will NOT be shown the same treatment. There is a desire to try and wage war against an enemy who does not care about world opinion, while binding our hands with that same world opinion.(Not to mention of course the domestic opinion. )

And on the domestic front we are now trying to defend the credibility of military (CIA, NSA, DIA ect.) intelligence using the parameters employed in civilian courts. Lets look at the difference between the two. Evidence from Military Intelligence is used to forstall, predict, stop and or counter an event. Evidence from Civilian courts is used to prove what happened AFTER an event. Military Intelligence evidence is time sensitive, Civilian court evidence has all the time in the world to be collected and analized. The burdon of validity is much lower in a time sensitive situation than in a situation where time is irrelevant. Especially since in one instance the objective is to prevent an action whereas the other's objective is to prosecute the results of the action. Today the President and yesterday the SecDef both aparently in a coordinated ploy declared that Saddam was NOT connected to 911! Why on earth say that? Because, the White House advisors don't believe they can defend the evidence they had in a civilian court of Law. Can you imagine someone telling FDR, on Dec 7 1941, " Sir, we can not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Germans were involved with the attack on Pearl Harbor." Well if you have gotten this far your to be thanked and commended. Oh, I have some views on Israel which .......


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1 posted on 09/18/2003 11:10:02 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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(popping popcorn)
2 posted on 09/18/2003 11:15:08 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Please direct all Quality Control complaints to Tijeras_Slim)
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To: martin_fierro
I'll bring the beer.
3 posted on 09/18/2003 11:17:23 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: martin_fierro
I honestly believed that I'd wait until after 2pm to start drinking.
4 posted on 09/18/2003 11:20:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: TomasUSMC
Well, there will be real costs to the federal government. One that I see clearly, comes in 22 years when Pancho the Wetback takes a bunch of miscellaneous papers to Social Security and, in his best "no-spec-a -da-English," "Johnny the Dunce," demands a social secruity pension. Of course, his papers show some payments with deductions, made to what appear to be 4 to 6 different people. He'll insist that they are all him but that the crooked gingos he was working for insisted on new ID number etc.

You expect politicians to defend against this fraud? You expect the plantiffs attorneys who'll gladly take his class action suit to recognize this fraud?

5 posted on 09/18/2003 11:20:49 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: TomasUSMC
Allow me to express my thoughts:

You need a proofreader.

6 posted on 09/18/2003 11:22:12 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (You may disagree with me, but I will fight for your right to be in error.)
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To: Bella_Bru
Doreign or Domestic? < / EvilGrin>
7 posted on 09/18/2003 11:22:26 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Bella_Bru
Hi Bella.
8 posted on 09/18/2003 11:22:33 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (You may disagree with me, but I will fight for your right to be in error.)
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To: martin_fierro
I had a Mr. Potato Head when I was a kid.
It was really cool.
We had to use real potatoes for the body.
But you had all these little plastic body parts
like ears, eyes, mouths, noses, and feet and hands.
You just stuck them right in the potato and
you made this little potato man.
You were supposed to call him Mr. Potato Head.
He had no neck - his head and body were the same.
It was just a potato.
This used to bother me but it doesn't anymore.
One of the coolest things about Mr. Potato Head
was all the neat hats you could put on him.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 11:25:28 AM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: TomasUSMC
Nice rant, Tomas. Welcome to FR.
10 posted on 09/18/2003 11:25:31 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: martin_fierro
I'll pull up a chair!
Well put by the way
11 posted on 09/18/2003 11:25:55 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: L,TOWM
Hee hee...both. :-)
12 posted on 09/18/2003 11:29:20 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: TexasNative2000
What's up? :-)
13 posted on 09/18/2003 11:30:58 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: TomasUSMC
Format is your friend. Seriously.
Just hit the return button once in awhile.
Makes it a lot easier on the eyes.
14 posted on 09/18/2003 11:45:51 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: TomasUSMC
Nice rant. You and I are in sync with most everything you have said. Welcome to FR, btw.

Semper Fi!
15 posted on 09/18/2003 11:52:28 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Tacis
Wow, great point. Thanks.
16 posted on 09/18/2003 1:50:55 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: martin_fierro
Don't be bringing that tagline to a post like this!
17 posted on 09/18/2003 1:55:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (No, Travis McGee didn't pay me to say nice things. Read his book!)
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To: TomasUSMC
Matter of fact, if you do the math, you will find that if abortion had not been legalized, the babies born that would now be of voting age and older, would closely equal - the number of illegal immgrant today! Add to this the attempts to legitimize homosexuality, with all its terrible health aspects - TB, AIDS, not to mention of course the effect it has on even further reducing the domestic births and we can see the tie in between abortion, homosexuality, Illegal immigration and the destruction from within.

Actually, I have no idea what the hell you're babbling about. Try taking a deep breath and expelling ALL the bong smoke.
18 posted on 09/18/2003 1:59:30 PM PDT by Belial
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To: TomasUSMC
Formatting is our friend, so let me be a friend....

Illegal Immigration. - Both parties allow it. Deporting is no use if we don't have borders to keep them out. Its like throwing someone out of the bank, but leaving the windows and doors wide open 24/7!
When these Illegals get to America they pay some state and federal taxes AND the bigger companies who employ them (I personally saw - La Salsa Resturant chain- in California), sometimes pay federal payroll taxes. BUT, when these illegals need medical services, educational services or God forbid Law Enforcement guidance, these services are almost entirely born by the STATES. Thus, the federal Government gets all the benefits and none of the negatives and the STATES get some of the benefits and ALL OF THE NEGATIVES. Humm now who is it that has the responsibility to control the borders and consequently the Illegals?

Wouldn't you know it - the Feds! Now we see the states issueing drivers licenses and consular documents. Why? The states are beginning to see the money trail and they want to tap into it also. These forms of identification are going to be called gateway documents to Banking. Not just banking but many other avenues of investing in State governed and taxable areas. Now instead of wiring this cash to the foreign country, they can put in the bank right here. They can buy big dollars items, get credit. All these are financial transactions that go through the state. Mo money. You know when you put it this way, looking at it from strictly a factual financial point of you, it sounds sound. EXCEPT, we are not dealing with just math, but MAN.

Did you know that now in the overun parts of our country, you can only get employment if : you speak spanish, english is a plus. And if you are illegal.

I'm talking from what I have seen in posh resturant chains in San Diego not just little shacks selling tacos. That will not show up in any fiscal balance sheet. Neither will the myraid of other tendencies that have taken hold, such as: ... the disdain Illegals have for a country grown so lazy, so lacking in pride, that it tolerates such disrespect to it border, to its language, to it Flag.

I personally cannot find reason to blame someone coming into a country that offers such riches, from a country so desolate as Mexico, Guatemala etc., when there is very little to lose compared to what can be gained. Sure a few die in the desert, but compared to the millions that make it, well I would take the same chance, especially considering the fact that if you get caught, the only thing the gringo does is place you back across an invisible, unprotected border, so you can cross over again the very next day!

If America had low unemployment and we needed people, then the price might be tolerable, but Americans are losing their jobs to outsourcing, H1B visas, companies moving entirely away, trade policies that pit our workers against not just slave workers, but slave workers in the worlds largest country, which also happens to be COMMUNIST! Ridiculous enviromental and animal rights regulations. (In San Diego's North Island Naval Base, part of the Navy's airfield is cordened off so some dumb ass bird can lay eggs there. Even though anybody will tell you they havn't seen a bird there in ages.)

And now our people are told that they are lazy and won't do some types of Labor ie., picking agriculture ect. Well it seems that you just might have to start paying more for vegetables and milk. Or better yet build a damn robot to do it. We have robots building computer chips, building cars and collecting rocks on MARS, you mean to tell me picking an orange orange from a green tree is to difficult? Please. This nevertheless does not address the issue of building a good work ethic among the young.

I say raise the pay if you have too, stop foreign agricultural products at the border. Its better to work on the farm, make money and pay more for food, therefore maintaining the consumer base spending which is what feeds the economic engine, than not having a job, not having money and not eating! But don't for a minute think that its just the low end jobs that are disappearing.

Both political parties are constantly supporting the H1B visa program. This is a program that brings in foreign workers to take jobs here that require at least a 4 year degree, and they can stay for up to 6 years at that job. How many? The law has a cap of 200,000 per year, but because of exceptions, the total for just 2000 and 2001 was - 799,000. Thats 800 THOUSAND hi tech jobs in two years! Thats 4 times the size of the entire United States Marine Corp. This does not count the L1 visas for international companies in this country, which was another 400,000. Thats 1.2 million in 24 months or 12,500 every single week!

Another aspect of Illegal immigration is that of population replacement. Many of our opponents state that the white population is not having enough, ah, humm how should I put it, they are not having enough kids. This is no doubt the case. Pat Buchanan came out with a book that was dead on with this issue. But if that is the case, then just increase LEGAL immigration. God knows the pool of eligible willing candidates is about 3 billion and growing. With LEGAL immigration, the immigrant joins our country with respect for U.S., as well as self respect. And his stay here is one of obeying the law - BECAUSE HE HAS RESPECT FOR THE LAW- the law has brought him in to this great country, it will protect him, and reward him in 5 years with the most desired citizenship on the planet! The illegal is constantly running from the law, exsists because of his disdain for it and his stay here is one that only continues thru his daily disobeying the law.

Abortion and Homosexuality - Litmus Test for any Democrat Yes, the democratic party does have a litmus test. I would dare say that it is impossible to find a democrat running for a national senate, house, and of course White House, that is not Pro Choice, and Pro Homosexual. The GOP of course does not have this or any test for that matter. Both of these policies are politics of death. Statistically 25 to 35 percent( the percentage is highest among americans of african decent) of all pregancies end in abortion, 3000 a day at least. (Thats the same number of americans who died in 911 everyday for the last quarter century) Matter of fact, if you do the math, you will find that if abortion had not been legalized, the babies born that would now be of voting age and older, would closely equal - the number of illegal immgrant today! Add to this the attempts to legitimize homosexuality, with all its terrible health aspects - TB, AIDS, not to mention of course the effect it has on even further reducing the domestic births and we can see the tie in between abortion, homosexuality, Illegal immigration and the destruction from within.

Islamic Terrorism. Most people define 911 as the day Islamic Terrorist attacked the WTC. Thats wrong 911 was the day Islamic Terrorist attacked the WTC- the SECOND TIME! I think President Bush has shown the true sacred heart of Christianity by using conventional land forces to minimize civilian casualties in these countries at the expense of our military casualties. But in the future is there any doubt that we will NOT be shown the same treatment. There is a desire to try and wage war against an enemy who does not care about world opinion, while binding our hands with that same world opinion.(Not to mention of course the domestic opinion. )

And on the domestic front we are now trying to defend the credibility of military (CIA, NSA, DIA ect.) intelligence using the parameters employed in civilian courts. Lets look at the difference between the two. Evidence from Military Intelligence is used to forstall, predict, stop and or counter an event. Evidence from Civilian courts is used to prove what happened AFTER an event. Military Intelligence evidence is time sensitive, Civilian court evidence has all the time in the world to be collected and analized. The burdon of validity is much lower in a time sensitive situation than in a situation where time is irrelevant. Especially since in one instance the objective is to prevent an action whereas the other's objective is to prosecute the results of the action. Today the President and yesterday the SecDef both aparently in a coordinated ploy declared that Saddam was NOT connected to 911! Why on earth say that? Because, the White House advisors don't believe they can defend the evidence they had in a civilian court of Law. Can you imagine someone telling FDR, on Dec 7 1941, " Sir, we can not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Germans were involved with the attack on Pearl Harbor." Well if you have gotten this far your to be thanked and commended. Oh, I have some views on Israel which .......

19 posted on 09/18/2003 2:02:14 PM PDT by Maigrey (Logan for Pinup of the Year!)
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To: TomasUSMC
Always a pleasure knowing how Marines feel about things!
Semper Fidelis
Dick Gaines
20 posted on 09/28/2003 4:33:08 AM PDT by gunnyg
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