Illegal immigration may decide California recall

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, September 18, 2003 | Jane Chastain

[JohnHuang2]

Thursday, September 18, 2003 Quote of the Day by JulieRNR21

[novacation]

Arnold's surrender on 187 is gutless. Seems as though he is willing to let ONE JUDGE over rule the will of the people. McClintock will fight for 187, something most people in California don't realize is the states obligation.

[SteveH]

This recall election isn't about Democrats vs. Republicans. It's about a man who will defend the law, Tom McClintock, and his opponents who defend lawlessness.

Over here.

[Roscoe]

"Now we have to move forward with the whole thing and to look at it, what we're going to do with all the people that are undocumented immigrants here in this state. What should we do? Should we have them to stay here, which I think is the right way to do, but how do you then include them in our society, how do you make it official, how do you make it legal?" --Arnold Schwarzenegger

[JustPiper]

Bump and Important Ping!

[novacation]

I'm voting for McClintock regardless of what the "polls" say. I've never voted for "the party".He is getting alot of support from the conservative talk shows.McClintock is going to get alot of support in the central valley.If Cruz wins why can't he be recalled?Maybe a perpetual state a chaos is the only thing that will get this state to wise up.But of course Davis has been working to make sure the state employees and illegals are the majority.

[jonalvy44]

you see SC congressman Barrett last nite on Scarborough? he is trying to introduce legislation to deport immigrants from terrorist countries!! he needs our support.

www.congress.org

contact him and your representative...

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I've said from the start that this recall is a referendum on Prop 187. Forty percent of the voters in 1994 were at the polls just to vote for Prop 187. When Dufus arranged mediation that killed it in 1999 we all noticed and a recall effort was launched that year.

Schwarzenegger is making a BIG mistake by not at least signaling solid support for substantive measures to fix the problems caused by ILLEGAL aliens.

[Gritty]

Breaking and entering remains a crime in your state.

Only if you are a burglar.

If you're a Liberal politician breaking and entering into everyone's wallets for your own pet programs, it's a way of life!

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[Uncle Hal]

Remember Prop 187 passed with 59% of the voters approving the measure. So any body that attacks an issue that 59% of the people voted for does so at his own peril.

[novacation]

Don't hold your breath for that.

[Publius6961]

The normal california voter (see my tag line) is still unaware that his vote is now worth 0.5 of what he expects.
And seems clueless as to why.

[novacation]

It wouldn't surprise me if something like 187 passed by a bigger margin if it were presented today. Amazing they try to use support of 187 as a negative. 59% of the population are mad it wasn't enforced. If it had been we may not be in the situation we are now.There is something wrong with the why the dems think. Some sort of brain fungus.

[tophat9000]

"Now we have to move forward with the whole thing and to look at it, what we're going to do with all the people that are undocumented immigrants here in this state. What should we do? Should we have them to stay here, which I think is the right way to do, but how do you then include them in our society, how do you make it official, how do you make it legal?" --Arnold Schwarzenegger

It's things like this combined with not supporting the referendum in illegal license that scares the hell out of me with Arnold

The pragmatic Republican position is not to fight the illegal because we want them to vote Republican.... that was my biggest problem with Bush in 2000

[Roscoe]

If Arnold wins, California should just go ahead and put signs on the national border saying, "Come and get it!"

[Nea Wood]

It wouldn't surprise me if something like 187 passed by a bigger margin if it were presented today.

Probably so, since things are even worse now, due to illegal immigration, than they were when Prop. 187 first passed. (Of course, many of the people who voted for 187 have since left the state in disgust, so who knows?)

[JustPiper]

I missed this show, but this is here to share:

JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: Tonight on SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY: A new congressional bill tries to ban from America all citizens from terrorist nations. Is this paranoia at its worst or national security at its best?

You’re about to enter SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY. No passport required, no San Francisco liberals allowed.
Hey, welcome to our show. I’m Joe Scarborough.

We’re going to say more about that later on the show. But, first, I want to talk about Representative Gresham Barrett. And he’s hunting around for co-sponsors on his new bill, the Stop Terrorism Entry Program, that would actually prohibit a person from a state who sponsors terrorism from entering the United States. And it would also require current visitors and students from those countries to leave the United States within 60 days.
And the congressman joins us tonight. He’s a Republican from South Carolina.
Congressman, thank you so much for being with us.
I want to begin by asking you, why do you think it’s so important for this bill to become law?
REP. GRESHAM BARRETT ®, SOUTH CAROLINA: Well, I will tell you something, Joe, the president of the United States-and I agree with him 100 percent-said that we are at war with terrorism.
And that’s exactly what we’re doing. Listen, I fought and defended my country in the United States Army. I raised my hand to protect and defend this country and the Constitution, just like I did when I put this black suit on as a United States congressman. One of the toughest things I ever did was give a flag to a friend of mine’s wife that had been killed in a helicopter crash. And I am not going to look any husband or wife in this country in the face and tell them that I didn’t do everything I could possibly do to stop terrorism from coming-terrorists from coming into this country.
I think it’s important for our national security.
SCARBOROUGH: Well, Congressman, let’s look at the State Department’s current list of state sponsors of terrorism that you would take aim at. We have Iran. We have Iraq. We’ve got Libya, Cuba, North Korea, and the Sudan.
Now, these are some of the most oppressive governments in the world. Why should we close the door to freedom from people who live in these countries, who I would think would need shelter in America’s shore more than any other citizens of any other countries across the world?
BARRETT: Well, Joe there are some exceptions.
No. 1, for political or religious reasons, if you want to seek asylum in the United States, you can do that. The other reason, if you want to have an emergency medical reason, you can come into the country. But listen, there was an article in the paper today. And I don’t remember which paper it was, but it said that our government officials, our law enforcement officials, are compiling a list of 100,000 possible terrorists in this country.
And I know-I don’t know for a fact, but I feel in my bones that, out of those 100,000, there are some people from these seven countries. And if they’re in this country and they’re supposedly terrorists, let’s get them out. We are at war. And I’m going to do everything I can to protect my homeland.
SCARBOROUGH: Well, what about the 15 of 19 terrorists on 9/11 who were from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? And you take Pakistan, which is the epicenter of terrorism around the world, isn’t it true that your bill won’t apply to these two countries? And doesn’t that defeat the entire purpose of what you’re trying to do, which is to keep terrorists, potential terrorists and terrorist sponsors from these dangerous states out of America? Why don’t you add Saudi Arabia to that list? Why don’t you add Pakistan to that list?
BARRETT: It’s just like you said earlier, Joe. This is a step. We call it STEP legislation, Stop Terrorist Entry Program.
And this is a small piece of the puzzle. We’re working on a comprehensive immigration bill right now, as well as a lot of other congressmen. And I’m not saying this is a panacea. This isn’t something that’s going to solve our problems overnight. But, again, it is a start and a step in the right direction. And we do have to address that, because we have terrorists coming in to our country through friendly countries. So we’re going to have to address that sooner or later.
But, again, this is the first step, I think, and a step in the right direction.
SCARBOROUGH: Well, let’s talk about another step we should be taking. There’s the Syria Accountability Act. And it calls on Syria to stop sponsoring terrorism and to end its weapons of mass destruction programs or face sanctions, like a ban on U.S. exports to Syria and investment in Syria, a downgrade of diplomatic relations. And it would restrict the travel of Syrian diplomats in the United States.
But unfortunately, this is another bill, like yours, that hasn’t passed yet. But isn’t this a type of like commonsense legislation we need to start off, where we focus on governments like Syria, where we stop playing it both ways, like we’re doing with Saudi Arabia, like we’re doing with Pakistan, like we’re doing with these other countries, again, that don’t fit neatly on the state sponsor of terror list that the State Department puts out every year? What do we do about a country like Syria?
BARRETT: Well, you’re exactly right, Joe.
And I think you hit on one of the major problems. We have got to be proactive. Listen, how long does it take for us to wake up? Doggonit, we had an embassy bombed. We had a United States ship bombed. We had bombings here on our own soil and lost wonderful lives, American lives and countless other lives, citizens and folks that weren’t even American.
Listen, it’s time we started being proactive. The president said it the other day. A dear friend of mine, Representative Carter from Texas, is shopping around a bill right now that, if you get convicted of terrorism, that you can face the death penalty. It’s time we started being proactive. It’s time we realized that we are at war and do everything we can to keep our country safe and strong.
SCARBOROUGH: Congressman, one final question. Does your bill have any chance of passing? How many co-sponsors do you have right now?
BARRETT: Well, we dropped it last week. We’re in the process of shopping it around right now. And I’ll tell you what. We’re going to work hard on this thing because it’s the right thing to do to keep our country headed in the right direction, to keep our folks safe.
SCARBOROUGH: All right, Congressman Barrett from South Carolina, thank you so much for your service to our country now and, of course, your service to our country when you were in uniform.

[goldstategop]

Americans are fed up as hell. I don't think the Elites yet know how mad we are.