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An attorney for Michael Schiavo, who has been seeking court permission to discontinue his wife's life support since 1998, said the decision to delay the tube's removal until mid- October is disappointing.

These people are ghouls.

1 posted on 09/17/2003 10:23:13 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey
Can the Gov. appoint an UNBIASED guardian for this lady.... one who does not stand to make a bunch of money off her death like "hubby dearest"??
2 posted on 09/17/2003 10:32:48 PM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: sockmonkey
++ These people are ghouls ++

Just to clarify, I mean the husband, his attorney, and the Judge are ghouls. Since when is food and water considered "life support" when it involves a disabled person, anymore than air, water, and food is life support for any of us?


3 posted on 09/17/2003 10:33:47 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Life has many choices. Eternity has two.)
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To: sockmonkey
How do you say judicial imposition of murder.
5 posted on 09/17/2003 10:41:37 PM PDT by RLK
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To: sockmonkey
MURDERERS.
But they are doing it to be kind of course.
7 posted on 09/17/2003 10:46:35 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: sockmonkey
Please forgive me if this article was already posted (the other thread is entirely too long to check back through).

Schindler-Schiavo's Feeding Tube to Be Removed Oct. 15

By Jeff Johnson CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief September 17, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Pinellas-Pasco County, Fla., Circuit Judge George Greer has set Oct. 15 as the day healthcare workers must remove a gastrostomy or "feeding tube" from Terri Schindler Schiavo.

Doctors say the 39-year-old woman, who suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances, is expected to die of starvation or dehydration within 10 to 15 days unless a federal court intervenes.

Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, began petitioning the local courts to stop providing her with nutrition and hydration in 1998 shortly after receiving a $1.2 million award in a medical malpractice lawsuit filed on Terri's behalf. Michael Schiavo has since fathered a child with another woman, with whom he is living, even though he is still legally married to Terri.

Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, filed suit in federal court earlier this month, alleging that Michael Schiavo and even Schiavo's attorney had committed numerous civil rights violations against Terri.

Additionally, the Schindlers have filed a motion to have Greer removed from the case and replaced with another judge because Greer allegedly improperly discussed details of a pending case with elected officials.

Those two actions may be the last chances to block the removal of Terri's feeding tube, as the Florida Supreme Court has already refused to intervene.

The Schindlers are seeking to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri's legal guardian and to begin providing therapy and rehabilitation to Terri that some medical professionals have said could improve her condition.

Schiavo has allegedly prevented Terri from receiving any range of motion, speech or other therapy since collecting the money from the lawsuit.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200309\CUL20030917f.html

15 posted on 09/17/2003 11:41:00 PM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: sockmonkey
This is the one I meant to post....sorry.

Conflict of Interest Charged in Florida Euthanasia Case

By Jeff Johnson CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief September 17, 2003

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Supporters of Terri Schindler Schiavo, the 39-year-old disabled Florida woman whose husband is attempting to remove her feeding tube which would end her life, charged a possible conflict of interest in the case Tuesday, one day after the judge postponed a decision on therapy for the woman to help her re-learn to swallow nutrients given to her by mouth.

The group working to get therapy and rehabilitative services for Terri alleges an improper link between the husband's attorney, George Felos, and court-appointed physician Dr. Peter Bambakidis, who was charged with providing an impartial review of the medical evidence in the case. Felos refused to comment on the allegation.

"Supporters of Terri believe that attorney George Felos had a personal relationship with either the Bambakidis family or with Peter Bambakidis prior to Dr. Peter Bambakidis being assigned as an independent examining physician in April of 2002," said Pamela Hennessy, spokeswoman for the group.

Hennessy referred to marketing materials distributed by Felos in which he lists some of the professional and social organizations in which he holds membership.

"A member of the Florida Bar and Clearwater Bar Association, Felos served as a member of the Clearwater Bar Appellate Law Committee, as governor of the American Hellenic Education Progressive Association (AHEPA), and as chair of numerous National Association of Securities Dealers arbitration panels," the document states.

AHEPA is a Greek fraternal organization that counts among its members Gust Bambakidis, chairman of the physics department at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio and the older brother of Peter Bambakidis.

The elder Bambakidis confirmed to CNSNews.com Tuesday that it was his brother, Peter, who testified in the Terri Schindler Schiavo case.

"He was down in Florida because he was, I think he was asked to be an expert witness in a case. I think that's what that was all about" Gust Bambakidis said.

Gust Bambakidis said his younger brother is not a member of AHEPA, which was confirmed by the group's national headquarters. The older brother also said that he does not know George Felos.

Peter Bambakidis did not return calls to his office seeking comment for this report.

Felos refuses to answer questions

Felos Tuesday refused to answer questions about his client's case or about any possible relationship with the Bambakidis family, saying CNSNews.com's coverage of the controversy was "atrociously biased so I'm just not going to participate in it."

"In one of your articles ... I was described, not by someone else, but by the author of the article as a 'euthanasia attorney,' or 'pro-euthanasia attorney,'" Felos claimed, "which is inaccurate. I don't support euthanasia, I never have, I've been very clear about my position."

Felos was unable to identify any article in which the alleged description of him occurred.

Of the 16 articles CNSNews.com has published regarding the Terri Schindler Schiavo case, only six have contained the word "euthanasia" and none have done so referring directly or indirectly to Felos.

He has been identified by CNSNews.com as "a noted author and advocate in Florida's so-called 'right to die' movement," and as "a well-known advocate of the so-called 'right-to-die'," along with variations of the phrase "Michael Schiavo's attorney."

Felos authored the book Litigation as Spiritual Practice, which includes in its promotion by Blue Dolphin Publishing the statement that "Attorney George Felos became the legal advocate of Estelle Browning's right-to-die and in the process plumbed the depths of death and dying and spearheaded a social revolution to enable death with dignity in the state of Florida."

Felos has been described as a "right-to-die lawyer" by the Philadelphia Inquirer, and the Orlando Sentinel has described Felos as the author of "a book about his right-to-die advocacy."

Judge set to rule on removal of feeding tube, swallowing therapy

Pinellas-Pasco, Florida, Circuit Judge George Greer refused to hear the Schindler family's motion that Terri be given immediate therapy to help her re-learn to swallow food on her own, before her feeding tube (technically referred to as a "gastrostomy" or "g-tube") is removed. Greer told attorney Pat Anderson that the issue is still being considered as part of the decision about when the tube will be removed.

"He told litigating attorneys that he would deliver a ruling on the removal of Terri's feeding tube as well as the emergency motion for immediate therapy ... on Wednesday," Hennessy told CNSNews.com. "But he's not calling another hearing. It's assumed, at this stage, that he's going to deliver whatever ruling he has via facsimile or courier."

Terri Schindler Schiavo suffered a brain injury due to oxygen depravation in 1990 under questionable circumstances. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, first petitioned the court to remove her feeding tube in 1998 shortly after winning a $1.2 million medical malpractice lawsuit on his wife's behalf. Terri's parents and siblings are seeking therapy and rehabilitation for her based on claims by some medical professionals that she could partially recover with

additional care. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200309\CUL20030917c.html

17 posted on 09/17/2003 11:56:38 PM PDT by Krodg (We have the ability because the leader in command knows who's in control....God Bless America.)
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To: sockmonkey

Call Florida Governor Jeb Bush - 850-488-7146

Call Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist - 850-414-3990


24 posted on 09/18/2003 5:44:49 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: sockmonkey
Greer said he sympathized with the parents but concluded that their request to try spoon-feeding her amounts to a bid to litigate the case from scratch.

Nice try. That might hold water if you had EVER ALLOWED THEM TO TRY TO SPOON FEED HER JUST ONCE.

``It is not even a veiled or disguised attempt,'' the judge added.

Neither is your determination to kill her.

25 posted on 09/18/2003 5:57:43 AM PDT by agrace
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To: sockmonkey
After a nonjury trial in January 2000, Greer ruled the evidence showed Terri Schiavo would not want to be kept alive by a feeding tube.

I don't have enough info to comment on this case specifically, and judging from the posts thus far, I don't think my addition to the thread will be very popular... but here goes.

If you're certain you would not like to be kept alive in a vegetative state should anything prevent you from voicing your own desires regarding your medical condition and treatment, then you should make your desires known NOW.

The Living Will is a good way to document your desires, and I'm certain you can get the basic form online. But the best course would be to tell the people closest to you what you want. If Mrs. Schiavo had not wanted to live in this condition, and had she firmly expressed to her husband and parents, then her desires could have been honored, and her family would not be dragged through the emotional and legal struggles they've been through.

The flip side of that coin is that had she wanted to be kept alive at all costs, irregardless of condition and prognosis, she could have expressed that as well. As could any Freeper who wants the opposite of the sentiments expressed in most Living Wills.

30 posted on 09/18/2003 7:23:31 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: sockmonkey
I have to think that a couple thousand motovate people (or a much smaller, well-trained and highly motovated group) could stop this execution.

You know, I don't post a lot - mostly I read and wait...and live my life...and I don't get too worked up about much...I do, however, feel compelled to share some recent events and changes in my life with everyone.

I attend a fairly-liberal Presbyterian church here in San Antonio. I'm actually a deacon to our college folks, and I am very active in the congregation. Some of you might not like the viewpoints of some of our members if you visited our church, but I know this is where the Holy Spriit wants me, and I am learning to see issues I have been dogmatic about in the past from a different perspective. It's been a good experience for me.

Because our church is the way it is, we don't talk a lot about the epic cosmic battle between good and evil :-), and we havn't yet song "Onward Christian Soldiers"...so I was very surprised when our minister, a woman, told this story in church last week:

Some time ago, A white headmaster in a South African school was told by the Board of the school that the school soccer team had to cancel a game they had scheduled against a team from a black school. This took place during the last days of apartheid, and the kind of mixing that this game would have involved would have caused a lot of scorn to come upon the school, its students, and the headmaster himself. When he was told he needed to stop the game from happening, he resigned. This ruined the man, as he was branded as a kaffir-lover by a number of his fellow white professionals.

When asked why he had gotten himself into this situation in the first place, and why he had quit rather than just scrubbing the game, the man said,

"When I die and stand before the Judge of Heaven, I believe he will look at me and ask to see my scars. If I have none to show him, he will ask me 'Was there nothing worth fighting for in your life?'"

My minister's point was: Jesus fought pain, wrath, temptation, Satan, and man himself to bring himself to the cross. He did this because he thought man's Salvation was worth fighting for.

I'm 30 years old. I don't have any scars. Maybe it's time to get a couple.

37 posted on 09/18/2003 8:24:19 AM PDT by billdcon
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To: sockmonkey
I really believe that Judge Greer is incapacitated. No Judge should characterize any party the way he has characterized Terri's parents. HIS COMMENTS SHOWING SUSPICION OF THEM should be enough to throw him off the case but this is Florida, I keep forgetting. FLORIDA: Don't come here if you're sick and be careful who you marry.

The Judge has had this case waaaaaay too long. There's a timeline in today's st. pete times. Maybe it's at their web site. www.sptimes.com.

I think in Judge Greer's mind, he wants to close this file, he is insulted that the parents are defying his authority. MUST TERRI DIE BECAUSE OF A JUDGE'S EGO and INFLEXIBILITY?

He hasn't ever seen Terri in person. I guess he doesn't want to look in her eyes and see that she's truly alive. That would RUIN HIS CASE FILE.

kimmie7 has a TERRI PING LIST. Please contact her if you want to join it. It's turning into Terri's Freepers.

40 posted on 09/18/2003 10:59:33 AM PDT by freeparoundtheclock (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: sockmonkey
I don't think anyone expected otherwise from Greer...
46 posted on 09/18/2003 1:01:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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