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To: strela
It is assinine to blame one of the few conservatives for the liberal policies that California currently suffers.

It is retarded to then choose a liberal promising more liberal policies for California when you have the choice of a conservative.

58 Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

32 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

34 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

35 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

Guess what...Schwarzenegger's name isn't on any of them.

You've made a superficial claim that Schwarzenegger is not Bloomberg, Snowe, or Jeffords. He's a liberal Republican, and so are they. Schwarzenegger never supported this recall when conservatives began it, and made it happen. He's simply hi-jacked it at the endgame and then only because his good friend...and liberal Republican...Riordan...couldn't do it with any credibility.

If you study the bills...it quickly becomes obvious that McClintock isn't a "pure" conservative. So there goes THAT strawman argument along with the one that he hasn't Accomplished anything.

If you want to run against Bustamante, go ahead, Tom already is...Arnold's supporters are more concerned with Tom's voting base than running against Bustamante.

Y'all want a liberal, you go right ahead and vote for a liberal. I'm perfectly comfortable telling you almost a year in advance:
We Told You So
85 posted on 09/18/2003 5:32:13 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Maelstrom; strela
If you want to run against Bustamante, go ahead, Tom already is...Arnold's supporters are more concerned with Tom's voting base than running against Bustamante.

You cannot be serious.

86 posted on 09/18/2003 5:49:53 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a chance?)
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To: Maelstrom
It is assinine to blame one of the few conservatives for the liberal policies that California currently suffers.

Why? I expect liberals to espouse liberal policies. That's what liberals do. However, I expect conservatives to have at least a modicum of success in effectively combating them. And in California, Tom McClintock has been about as effective as prescribing two aspirin to treat a case of decapitation.

It is retarded to then choose a liberal promising more liberal policies for California when you have the choice of a conservative.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is not a liberal. And, the only "retard" here is the one who advocates sending an 8 year old boy with a teaspoon to empty the Pacific Ocean. He might eventually get it done, but he'd better pack a lunch.

58 Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

Thank you for FINALLY at least trying to answer one of my questions (content-free that the answers are). Has McClintock ever had to meet a payroll?

32 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

Has McClintock ever successfully operated his own business?

34 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

Has McClintock had ANY success of any kind in the private sector? Has he ever even tried?

35 more Bills here: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery

Has McClintock ever made 30 million dollars a shot producing a product that people actually want to consume?

Guess what...Schwarzenegger's name isn't on any of them.

Well duhhhh. He hasn't been elected to any public office yet. McClintock has had 25 years of practice in attempting to be elected to public office; his record is spotty at best at succeeding in it.

You've made a superficial claim that Schwarzenegger is not Bloomberg, Snowe, or Jeffords.

The claim seems pretty substantial to me. Unless there is some sort of Star Trek alien-type technology involved here, Schwarzenegger has NEVER been any of those people.

He's a liberal Republican, and so are they.

Schwarzenegger is not a liberal.

Schwarzenegger never supported this recall when conservatives began it, and made it happen.

Aha - you've just displayed one of the behaviors of the typical liberal - giving professional politicians the credit for something that the people did. The voters of the state of California are the ones who made the recall happen, not the professional politicians. How does it feel to have something in common with Teddy Kennedy?

Can you prove that Schwarzenegger's name does not appear on at least one of the petitions authorizing it?

He's simply hi-jacked it at the endgame and then only because his good friend...and liberal Republican...Riordan...couldn't do it with any credibility.

I could make the same case that McClintock "hi-jacked" the process as well, insinuating himself into the process and taking common cause with Cruz Bustamante against Arnold Schwarzenegger.

When will you ever get it - Tom McClintock's presence in this race is a distraction and is harmful to Republican interests in California politics. He cannot win.

If you want to run against Bustamante, go ahead,

Arnold Schwarzenegger IS running against Bustamante. Tom McClintock is HELPING him by signing a paper with Bustamante's signature already on it threatening to withdraw from the next debate unless the format is changed. Brothers in arms, right?

88 posted on 09/18/2003 8:50:10 PM PDT by strela ("Piffle, dear, I don't have morals, just customs." Hilda Burroughs)
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