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IT outsourcing: It's not just India anymore
Computerworld ^ | 9/17/2003 | Todd R. Weiss

Posted on 09/17/2003 11:42:38 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer

NEW YORK -- In the past few years, companies considering offshore outsourcing for some of their IT work have typically looked to India for services. But that is slowly changing, as several relative newcomers, including Nepal, the Dominican Republic and Grenada, are now working to persuade companies from the U.S. and other countries to send their business overseas.

At the annual TechXNY/PC Expo show here at the Jacob Javits Convention Center, outsourcing companies from all over the world gathered this week for OutsourceWorld, being held as part of TechXNY, to show what they can do for customers.

Bhavana Rana, managing director of Data Resources Inc., a business processes outsourcing company in Katmandu, Nepal, said clients are typically nervous about entering into an outsourcing arrangement overseas because of fears about disruptions such as terrorism. But, she said, because work can be done and transmitted electronically, those risks are overblown.

"In this business, we're virtual," she said. "Terrorism happens everywhere, including in the Philippines, and they have done great business process outsourcing for the U.S."

Rana's company is still growing its outsourcing operations and is seeking clients to do back-office operations for hospitals, legal firms, insurance companies and airline frequent-flier programs. "We're saying, 'We're here,'" she said. "I'm not looking for short-term business plans. I'm looking for long-term business plans. That's what I learned in [this] country, and that's what I want to uphold."

In the Philippines, Pacific Connexion in Pasig City offers offshore back-office, customer service, sales support and telemarketing outsourcing, while 3D Networks in Makati City helps clients set up their own outsourcing operations there.

Eugene Reyes, a New York-based trade representative for the Philippine Trade and Investment Center for the Consulate General of the Philippines, said his office works to tell U.S. companies what his country can offer to their businesses. "We try to close the deal together," he said.

It's like running a restaurant that serves many different kinds of food, Reyes said: "I don't care what you order, as long as it's in my restaurant."

Some companies offer a combined approach, with management offices in North America and the actual outsourcing operations in other countries.

Ron Johnson, president of BPM Outsourcing in Toronto, provides business process management outsourcing to clients from the company's operations in St. George, Grenada. By being in Canada, services cost less than U.S. prices to start, and the company is able to offer additional savings from being in Grenada, where Johnson has about 150 workers.

Stephen Muirhead, CEO of outsourcing vendor Absolute Quality in Hunt Valley, Md., said his company's offering of management in the U.S. and outsourcing services offshore will be the best of both worlds for customers seeking help. The new approach is still evolving, but it will be offered to clients soon.

"By working with someone like us, you've got the assurance of a substantial U.S. infrastructure, a substantial European infrastructure, and if something goes wrong, you can always pull it back," Muirhead said.

The company will offer the lower pricing of offshore vendors, along with management provided from a local office in the U.S., which can help convince worried IT executives that this is the safest path for their companies, he said. Typically, if outsourced tech support in India goes for $12 per hour, his company will charge $15 per hour, including enhanced management services, he said. "What we're selling is peace of mind, so we better be damn sure that we deliver it."

Accelerated Computer Technologies Inc. in Pompano Beach, Fla., offers management from the U.S. and services offshore in the Dominican Republic. "We're still partially made in America," said Vice President Brian Javeline.

And by being close to the U.S. mainland, business communications are simplified. "You have to be able to talk to people on your clients' business hours," he said.

Software development outsourcing is also gaining new providers in places like Bulgaria, Romania and Egypt.

Bucharest, Romania-based Akela has been doing business in Europe for several years but is opening a sales office in Fairlawn, N.J., in several weeks to offer its services to U.S. companies, said Peter Ungureanu, a managing partner. The U.S. office will help create a presence here and give comfort to potential customers, he said.

Eastisoft Inc. in Sofia, Bulgaria, is a software outsourcing company with offices in Salt Lake City, again to help reassure clients that they're not losing touch with their products when they send work offshore.

Five software companies from Egypt, including software outsourcing businesses, were at the show for the first time collectively to bring their offerings to the U.S. as an IT team. Manal Amin, deputy chairman of the Egyptian Software Foundation, said the companies are trying to "create an awareness" that they are ready to provide outsourcing services to the world. "We're trying to promote Egypt as a hub for the region," Amin said.

James Johnson, an analyst at The Standish Group International Inc. in Dennis, Mass., said the availability of offshore outsourcing in more nations around the globe is growing. "We haven't seen it to such an extent before," Johnson said.

The idea of outsourcing companies using U.S. offices for project management to reduce corporate worries about sending IT work overseas is "an interesting idea, but I think that doesn't really solve the bigger issue. All that is is a comfort thing," he said.

If companies are outsourcing work offshore, there is more risk of an IT worker booby-trapping code or causing some other intentional problem without U.S. laws to protect the client's company, Johnson said. "I think there are issues one has to make sure that they cover" when considering offshore outsourcing, he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: it; outsourcing
...and the beat goes on.
1 posted on 09/17/2003 11:42:38 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
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http://www.foxnews.net/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,96679,00.html

As long as they stay where they are, I have no problem with outsourcing. Serves the labor unions right.
2 posted on 09/17/2003 11:54:23 AM PDT by walford (It's much harder to find the truth than to make it.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
They're probably ready to undercut the India labor rates, also.
3 posted on 09/17/2003 11:59:49 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: walford
Enough with the "unions caused this" crap already; the vast majority of the outsourced jobs were not in unionized industries.

I hate unions, but blaming the unfair trading practices of China and India on unions is playing right into the ChiComs hands. It's called "divide and conquer".
4 posted on 09/17/2003 12:02:40 PM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Did they mention China? China has some very good programmers. The problem there is some trouble with English but that is being overcome with Westerners providing copy editing.

A very useable Chinese version of MS Works (word, excel, etc. package) was developed last year in China and it should be hitting the U.S. market soon, and without Microsoft's $350.00 + price tag.
5 posted on 09/17/2003 12:12:50 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
Your right about China. A friend who is a United pilot always comes back from China with a bag full of goodies -"Mount Blanc" pens, "Gucci" watches and computer games and other software. The real body blow to this country is going to come from China's developing biotech industry. In ten years or less they will blow away the biotech industry here. This is one of the least reported stories concerning China's rapidly developing economy.
6 posted on 09/17/2003 12:31:02 PM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: All

Offshore OUTSOURCING doesn't really matter !
The SOLUTION is simple !
We'll just become a nation of CEO's !

How can it be called "Free Trade" when the other country imposes tarifs ?
7 posted on 09/17/2003 1:07:49 PM PDT by pyx
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
I think Mont Blanc and Gucci are products from europe not america. While they are important the best scotch is still made in scotland and the best beer in the rockies. The stuff made in the world comes from ameirca and the least expensive stuff in the world is made by poor people trying to get like you and me. The best selling car in China is an OLDS.
8 posted on 09/17/2003 2:37:47 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: walford
Sorry to tell you - IT unions aren't causing this - there are no IT unions to speak of.
9 posted on 09/17/2003 6:56:22 PM PDT by Thisiswhoweare
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
D-mmit, can't someone get these people to stop speaking English?!
10 posted on 09/17/2003 6:57:26 PM PDT by VOA
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
The real body blow to this country is going to come from China's developing biotech
industry. In ten years or less they will blow away the biotech industry here.
This is one of the least reported stories concerning China's rapidly developing economy.


That's already clear to anyone working in plant molecular biology in the USA.

Develop an incredible new transgenic plant with no detectable threat to
the environment in China, you'll get a medal and gold.
Do it in the USA or Western Europe, and you'll have enviro-whackos threatening
to burn your plant greenhouse down or destroy your research farm.

Presuming the "suits" at the EPA and other organizations have allowed you to
conduct the necessary research and field work...

I'm familiar with a recently opened research greenhouse. It cost nearly
$10 million and has a number of security measures...because of threats from
the enviro-extremists.
And all this in a greenhouse that doesn't have any transgenic (genetically-modified)
plants growing in it.
(The enviro-extremists have destroyed crops at research farms...even when there
are no GM crops present).
11 posted on 09/17/2003 7:03:28 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Look for India to file a WTO complaint of unfair labor practices.
12 posted on 09/17/2003 8:09:03 PM PDT by stylin19a (is it vietnam yet ?)
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