The War Party's Enablers: all of us

SF Chroncile | 14 Spet. '03 | Robert Higgs

[u-89]

>Terrorism is the result of political problems? Are you suggesting that 9-11-01 was just a political statement?

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The stated reasons for 9/11 were the presence of US troops on holy muslim ground, the continuing war against the Iraqi people and lastly the Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. Pretty much sounds like they had some policy differences which they felt they could only get addressed by use of force. Historically small groups resort to terrorism against a large unresponsive state. That would mean policy = political problem. Also it emphasizes that war begets more war. No Gulf War One, no troops on Saudi land, no 9/11.

[tbpiper]

our interventions and meddling have not solve problems

Damn right! We should have never meddled in Germany & Japan!

[tbpiper]

You forgot the S'mores.

[u-89]

>Haven't most wars been declared

In the last 60 years? Are you kidding? Also you seem to count only official war as war. Our military has been directly active in so many islands, Central American countries and in regions of Aisa in the last century that I couldn't name them all off the top of my head and that does not count the sponsored coups, funded revolutions and civil wars.

[tbpiper]

This'll be fun, let's watch.

Boy,this one filled up quick. Even got in my $.02(.0128 Cdn)

[50sDad]

Explain to me why Republicans are "the War Party" when it was FDR spoilin' to get us into WWII? And Kennedy's Democrats who put us seriously into Viet Nam? Anybody?

[Shryke]

W.W.I brought on communism and nazism.

Wrong. Poor enforcement of peace treaties plus appeasement empowered Hitler. And please deomnstrate how Stalin came to be because of WW1?

W.W.II enable communism to grow strong in the USSR and spread, ensuring the cold war.

Stalin again. Also, please cite all casualties of the "cold war"? Just because it is a popular term to use, doesn't make it a "war".

WWII's policy of unconditional surrender meant we had to conquer and occupy a land rather than merely defeating an army. Thus we had to rebuild and defend the conquered lands. BTW we are still there and even expanding our jurisdiction - recipes for more wars.

Incorrect again. Our peace policy of the time, born from our noble purpose, motivated us to rebuild our conquered foes. I would argue that Japan and Germany, whose history is amazingly agressive and violent, have learned their lesson concerning the U.S. As far as expanding our jurisdiction, I have no idea what you mean.

You have every right to be a pacifist u-89, but I am quite glad you are not in charge of our foreign policy. When people like you are in office, Americans always wind up dead in large numbers.

[u-89]

What do you think of the Zionists who bombed and shot the British to get an independent Israel? That was terrorism for political ends.

[u-89]

The progressive/globalist agenda has been advanced throughout the last century by administrations of both parties equally. The only difference between the two is method of approach.

[MJY1288]

"No Gulf War One, no troops on Saudi land, no 9/11."

Spoken like a true blame America firster, Just in case you've forgotten, We were invited by the Saudi's to their land so we could protect them form Saddam and liberate Kuwait.

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

I'll give you the words of my ten year old who seems to have a pretty good grasp on the relative simplicities of this,(paraphrased from our pre-war talks) "I think hurting other people is wrong, especially if good ones will get hurt getting the bad ones. But sometimes people don't listen to words, I think they might have problems their brains and the way they think,kind of like Bin Laden. If I were a mom or a dad and had to think about my kids, I think I would do anything for my kids and America, even if some good people get hurt. Goodpeople got hurtinNew York and we weren't even in a war,noonehadtime to leave the city or stay home like they did in Iraq. And Saddam knew the rules. He could have done the right thing and protected his own country. If you gave me as many chances as he had I'd never be in trouble! I'm glad President Bush is our father right now."

Basically, what I got out of our conversation is what I have come to discover as an adult..... it sucks to be a grown up! No sh**. But sometimes you have to do the awful,gut wrentching things it takes to see the big picture and do what is right even if some people get hurt and you aren't in with the in crowd. Pacification and endless rounds of Kumbaya don't feel real good when you are scraping the guts of a toddler off a Pennsylvania field. Glad she gets it even if so many grown ups don't.

[Unam Sanctam]

Americans are not a warlike people. That is pure rubbish. We have an orderly society. We go to war for defense and principle, not because we like to.

[ohioman]

Your's is one of the dumbest posts I have seen a while. Thank God we got people with cahones running our foreign policy. Intellectuals will never find Utopia, and they will never quit looking for it either.

[MJY1288]

An "It's our fault" PING

[ohioman]

I wish people like you would get so fed up, that you would just leave the country. Do us all a favor.

[MJY1288]

"I wish people like you would get so fed up, that you would just leave the country. Do us all a favor."

But what would we do with that great big empty building (AKA) The State Department ?

[dighton]

I know Higgs. He used to be sensible.

From the looks of it, he's followed a well-worn path to lunacy:

... the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, a Likud Party megaphone whose motto might well be "all wars all the time."

[Long Cut]

I saw that line too. You know, whenever I see such a reference in an article, it seems to put it in perspective, doesn't it?

I mean, in just one line in a whole screed, the author gets down to what REALLY bugs him, without even meaning to do so.

The rest of the wasted ink is simply packaging.

[Humvee]

Is Higgs a boson?

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

I don't know Higgs (and I thought I knew everything!!! What a buzz kill.......)