Patrick J. Buchanan Examines "The Slow Awakening of George W."

Washington Times ^ | 09-17-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

[DoughtyOne]

Bud, one thing the present economists and politicians cannot explain away is this. In 1988 we were a thriving nation who's GNP was more double it's closest competitor, probably more like four times it's closest competitor. If somethig is broke...

I have seen no explanation for why this situation had to be fixed. It's preposterous to think that it did.

We are NOT better off today, and it's getting worse by the day!

[EternalVigilance]

LOL...fair enough.

[ninenot]

There is also an acceptance of government intervention to achieve their desired results.

Gummint MADE the wrong policy--it's only the Gummint that can UN-MAKE it.

Your complaint about seeking redress from Gummint is downright silly.

I note that you wouldn't have a problem if Gummint rescinded OSHA, FLMA, EEO, and ERISA...

WHO ELSE could do it?

[RLK]

Why is it that you insist you have a college degree when it is so obvious that you lied about it?

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Ask him what courses he took and what he studies. Gusts courses allowing just enough credentials to take a position as a bullshit salesman.

[RockyMtnMan]

We wouldn't be having this conversation if the answer was; Why, they are investing it domestically and creating new businesses and growing capital in the companies they buy product from. We would be adding jobs left and right if capital was staying at home.

Trickle-down only works for America when investment comes to US not everyone else.

[Gargantua]

Your best efforts to divert the proper focus of this from America's disappearing manufacturing base (the PROBLEM) to 'the benefits of free trade' (the RED HERRING) will not be successful, and I will see to it (as will many other FReepers).

[JohnGalt]

First, being rude is no way to introduce yourself as if I have not spent some time thinking about this. Let alone revealing on your first post that you are not a subscriber to the American Conservative, that would be Pat Buchanan's magazine, which took up the 'weak dollar' and monetary policy issuse two months ago, you don't come across as particularly serious.



Me: What if $5 American dollars worth of labor equaled $6 Chinese dollars worth of labor?

You: ????

[hchutch]

Read Post 182.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will sink in to a number of the folks who seem to prefer class warfare to sensible solutions.

[ninenot]

200 tons of turkey carcass a day,

First of all, it's nice to see ONE agri-venture not owned by that bunch of Greek crooks in Decatur, IL.

Having said that, how many turkeys are we going to have to EAT in order to put gas in the car?

[RLK]

If you are going to use free trade to disposses whole waves of American workers, don't be surprised when the dispossesed demand a European level social safety net. There are no atheists in the trenches. There are no libertarian free traders on the unemployment line.

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Amen.

[VxH]

"MIS"educated or "DIS"educated?

[ninenot]

They seem to be one of the only groups in America for whom business is booming,

Only the PI/ambulance chasers.

Real professionals--corporate, labor-type attorneys are having a hell of a time billing hours. It's slow...REALLY slow.

[bimbo]

Protectionism only weakens our economy. Protectionist measures give domestic producers an artificial advantage over their foreign counterparts.

Explain to me what is "protectionist" about requiring China to float their currency, like our other major trading partners? Or is the "artificial advantage" this gives China what is mean by "free trade?"

So, if any "advantage" is to be had, I'd prefer that it accrue to domestic producers rather than those Chinese Communists.

[maui_hawaii]

Zoellick needs to hit the road. His visions of world trade etc are not good. He has too much influence in the administration.

[RockyMtnMan]

Pray-tell what is my "plan"?

[ninenot]

He knows that "retraining" to start at the bottom in something new is futile because employers frankly do not want a 50 year old intern/trainee.

EVEN IF a '50-yer-old trainee' WOULD be considered--it'd only take about 2 seconds to realize that if EVER called back to his $19.95/hour plus bennies job--he'd go in a flash.

THe reluctance to hire has to do with retention, not necessarily capability.

[ninenot]

You may have seen commercials about them on TV, though.

Yup. They run throughout the NCAA tournament.

[Texas_Dawg]

You lie because you do.

You sure don't seem like much of a Georgian. Do you even know what time the game starts?

[LIBERATENJ]

And your point was???

[Tokhtamish]

Precisely.

An American company cannot dump untreated waste into the nearest stream the way a Chinese factory can. An American factory cannot create the kind of emphysema air quality Chinese factories do. An American factory has to actually have health and fire safety codes, not like a Chinese factory. And in the litigation free environment of a Chinese factory, the manager is free to nail any of the very easily replaced girls who work for him.

Unless we want to restore the conditions of 1900 we will lose any "free trade" competition. I don't want to go back to company towns, coal police, child labor, Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, and such.