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We are speaking about Hamas, but if you want to get into a conversation about ME politics, that's something different.

A-Q want only a few things and are prepared to pay the ultimate price to get what they want.

US and it allies out of the Middle East, including Iraq

Palistinian Issue solved (not talked about, but solved)

They see the west and especially the US as being anti Islamic because of their one sided view of of Israel.

Just like the Sien Fein, the Tamil Tigers, all who were recognized by their respecitive governments before the issues were solved (at least partly).

Now you may say we cannot talk to these people as they allegedy killed so many people in 9/11. Well in 20 or 50 years time when even more people have have been murdered on both sides, we will be sitting down to talk or the spiral will continue, if you think it cannot continue, look at Israel.

You're a disgrace, and if I were to write what I *really* think of you, I'd be banned from FR permanently.

The fact that hamas exists solely to make the Middle East Judenrein doesn't come as news to you, does it? (That's a rhetorical question, btw.) That they want to kill all the Jews and drive them out of the ME -- as opposed to living peacefully next to them -- isn't an issue, is it? (Another rhetorical question)

You have a very naive view of ME politics and you over simplify what AQ and the other radical Islamists want. They don't hate us for our stand on Israel, they hate us for the threat that we pose to the reinstatement of a new Islamic Worldwide Kingdom. American style democracy, with its free will and capitalist economic system is the single largest threat to the spread of their first century Islamic rule. Israel is only a major thorn in their side, the US is the MAIN target.

A-Q want only a few things

They would like me and every other American or Jew dead or converted to Islam. You may be fine with their list of grievences, but I for one, consider it a direct attack on my way of life. Everything that can be done to stop them, should be done.

As for "sitting down to talk" as you say, it should never happen. You may advocate negotiating for your rights with terrorist, I would negiotiate my rights with a gun.

"Solving" the Israel/plaestinian situation to Hamas means dissolving Israel's democracy of 6 million people (Jews, and Christian and Muslim Arabas, who all participate in the deomcracy) and replacing it with an Islamic Iranian/Taliban like state. 5 million Jews will be killed, forced to leave or made to suffer under "Dhimmitude". They want to drive the Jewish state into the sea.

It's a "Final solution" that harkens back to Himmler.

These issues cannot be solved on Hamas' terms.

And dont confuse Arafat with a nationalist liberator- that Egyptian terrorist was *already* given a state to run and in 10 years he's cuts its GNP by 70% (west back and gaza) and created a generation of haters in their horrible schools and due to the massive unemployment his kakistocracy has created. He walked away from 98% of the west bank and chose war instead. 800 Isrealis killed by terrorism in the last 4 years alone.

A just solution will yield a federated Isreal where west bank and gaza are economically integrated with the successful israeli economy, but they have political/cultural autonomy. But that autonomy needs to be given to freedom-logving republicans/democrats not Terrorists.