Pious Bias: Lies and the lying liars who attribute them to the other party

Slate ^ | September 15, 2003 | William Saletan

[SolutionsOnly]

The author is correct in pointing out Democrat hypocrisy. It's unfortunate in a way too, because it is this sort of hypocrisy that is driving reasonable people away from the Democrats. I'd like to see the left wing of the Democrat party continue to marginalize itself a while longer - at least to the point where conservatives are able to gain the votes required to overcome liberal efforts to usurp the Judicial nomination process.

[stuartcr]

Politics and the desire for power is dirty, regardless of which side.

[CanisRex]

But if that's your obsession, I commend to you the words of my colleague, Jack Shafer: If you're interested in which wing lies more, you're probably not very interested in the truth.

A more appropriate truism I've seldom heard. Now granted, we haven't slipped to the shrilly shrieking depths of the DU'ers, but this is a line that many freepers would also do good to take to heart.

[EllaMinnow]

I agree. The dems - especially the presidential candidates - have painted themselves into a tiny corner right now.
Speaking as a Republican, I think we need to take advantage of their leftward tilt before they aim back to the center. We are in a position to swoop up a large portion of the middle, who are generally favorable towards President Bush.

Mind you, I think Karl Rove is doing just that.

[EllaMinnow]

A dem GETS it!

[Grampa Dave]

I got this email from a conservative friend, this morning. It deals with lies and statements about Iraq by key rats when the Clintoon was president and how they have changed with GW as president.:

"Less they forget.....

WMD ???????????? HMMMM.... "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that. Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of an illlicit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002, "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his mi ssile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002, "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

SO NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? RIGHT!!!

[cyncooper]

Wow.

I am impressed with Saletan's honesty here, even if he refers to "the games Republicans play", which in actuality is that we follow the rules and the dems distort words, language, and laws beyond all recognition to their meaning in fact.

I am biting my tongue on expressing my thoughts on that PIG clinton saying Republicans tried to put more arsenic in the water. That is just a perfect example of the lies he spreads. What a DISGRACE.

[EllaMinnow]

Thanks, GD.
I rarely bookmark my own threads, but I'm bookmarking this one, so that I'll have your excellent post handy.

[bt_dooftlook]

Yes, but there are more unreasonable in-duh-viduals being driven to the Democrats (or, in their tacit inferiority, too afraid to leave...)

[cyncooper]

Politics and the desire for power is dirty, regardless of which side.

Notice that dirty tricks by Republicans are given no example in this article? It points out efforts by them to enforce rulings and laws, but not dirty tricks.

The dems' trick is to try to thwart the law, and when they are challenged they point the finger and say it is their opponent who is engaging in the wrongdoing.

[EllaMinnow]

LOL!

[SolutionsOnly]

I have faith that truth will win out in the end - as long as conservatives show some spine and continue to stand up to the spin and propaganda. The arguments from the likes of Al Franken, Joe Conason, and the DNC are not sustainable over the long run. It's only when the conservatives go silent and become timid that the left can advance it's agenda, for the truth is not on their side. The Republican defense (or lack thereof) of Manuel Estrada is a painful reminder of this.

[Choose Ye This Day]

Note to Dem Elites:

SHUT UP AND PLAY FAIR!!!

[Grampa Dave]

That is a great poster.

Lunatic Lying Libs never shut up until the Good Lord make his final house call on them.

[Zack Nguyen]

In Texas, Republicans seeking to redraw congressional districts in the third year of the decade are violating custom but not law.

There is some debate about whether they are even violating that. Democrat Lt. Governor Bullock threw out the two-thirds rule for consideration of Senate bills in the 1992 redistricting fight.

[conservativemusician]

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[LiteKeeper]

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[samiam1972]

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