To: kattracks
Andres cited a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court that says anything you do on your private property signs, flags, and anything like that - is an expression of your feelings and is covered under the First Amendment of the Constitution. Yes, Andres, but the First Amendment only protects against government action that infringes upon our right to free speech and expression and not the actions of a private organizations. And while you are rabid about the so-called right to free speech that doesn't exist in this context, you are totally oblivious to the rights of individuals to form groups and enter into enforcable contracts that govern the behavior of those individuals who voluntarily joined the group and agreed to be governed by the terms of the private contract in the first place.
To: Labyrinthos
A "private" suicide pact is enforceable?
As long as the parties are all bound by their agreement?
Is an agreement to abide by future unspecified changes without limit binding?
12 posted on
09/16/2003 5:04:12 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
To: Labyrinthos
"...you are totally oblivious to the rights of individuals to form groups and enter into enforcable contracts that govern the behavior of those individuals who voluntarily joined the group and agreed to be governed by the terms of the private contract in the first place.." You obviously missed the point of there being NO SUCH RULES in the homeowners "contract" in the first place. "Homeowners Associations" rapidly become just another group of jack-booted thugs. Be damned to them.
To: Labyrinthos
homeowners associations are prohibited from banning the flying of the American flag regardless of any rules and regulations or bylaws except for size, safety and location which must be adopted into the bylaws. Seems like a slam dunk.
To: Labyrinthos
"...you are totally oblivious to the rights of individuals to form groups and enter into enforcable contracts that govern the behavior of those individuals who voluntarily joined the group and agreed to be governed by the terms of the private contract in the first place."
What about the HO board changing the rules after you sign the agreement????
19 posted on
09/16/2003 5:30:37 AM PDT by
Ramcat
To: Labyrinthos
In the 19th century the Mormons tried to form a religious association with a covenant that allowed polygamy. The federal government stepped in and said no. People can't just form a contractual association and do whatever they want. Eventually such an association may bump heads with the prevailing mores of the community.
I do agree, though, with the right of contractual associations. Just be prepared for a battle if it oversteps certain bounds or groups.
23 posted on
09/16/2003 5:56:06 AM PDT by
sergeantdave
(Eating unplucked goose could cause breathing problems - EPA)
To: Labyrinthos
Be a Patriot- Ban "Homeowners Associations" NOW!
26 posted on
09/16/2003 6:37:08 AM PDT by
Clemenza
(East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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