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'Bush totally against scrapping H1-B visas'
Indo-Asian News Service ^ | Ela Dutt

Posted on 09/16/2003 4:01:46 AM PDT by TopQuark

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Many people seem to be very interested in this issue.
1 posted on 09/16/2003 4:01:47 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
The invisible hand at work on a global basis, making all things whole and safe, starting right here at home. [/sarcasm]
2 posted on 09/16/2003 4:08:36 AM PDT by risk
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To: RaceBannon; Willie Green
"Judging from the president's strong negative reaction to the Tancredo bill, it's apparent that the president understands that the current unemployment situation in the U.S. is not due to H1-B visa holders taking American jobs," Shah contended.

It may not be the main cause but it sure doesn't help.

3 posted on 09/16/2003 4:08:45 AM PDT by raybbr
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This could be a pivotal election issue. Foreigners occuping high tech jobs when American citizens are out of work IS a big issue. Related, Presidsent Bush seems to support the presence of illegal aliens in the US, seems to be reluctant to control the northern and southern US borders, and also seems to want to put Mexicans here illegally at the head of the line for citizenship. In the face of the economy and the war on terrorism, these positions are politically unacceptable.
4 posted on 09/16/2003 4:12:46 AM PDT by NetValue (They are not Americans, they're democrats.)
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To: TopQuark
Maybe the President needs to look at all the H1B and L1 technology workers who can not vote for him and all the out of work technology workers who may not vote for him before he makes promises like this.
5 posted on 09/16/2003 4:12:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: raybbr
It may not be the main cause but it sure doesn't help.

900K H1B's, mostly in software, in a job market that the US Bureau of Labor Statistics has as only having 1,878K jobs?

It sure as hell is a major cause.

6 posted on 09/16/2003 4:17:22 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: Non-Sequitur
Maybe the President needs to look at all the H1B and L1 technology workers who can not vote for him and all the out of work technology workers who may not vote for him before he makes promises like this.

You forgot to work the 'people giving money to him' into that equation.

7 posted on 09/16/2003 4:19:04 AM PDT by Djarum
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To: SauronOfMordor
I meant to say, "job market
in the category for computer professionals"
8 posted on 09/16/2003 4:19:07 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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I agree. It's nasty thing that he's doing not dismantling this outdate program.

(I meant it's not the main cause of unemployment overall.)

9 posted on 09/16/2003 4:23:36 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: TopQuark
H1-B's, amnesty for illegals (pre-9/11), "free" trade with China - why does Bush hate the middle class?
10 posted on 09/16/2003 4:56:11 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.)
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Perhaps I'm overlooking something, but what does this bill have to do with the American Indian?
11 posted on 09/16/2003 4:58:08 AM PDT by marvlus
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Nothing. He wasn't speaking to Amercian Indians (Native Americans), he was speaking to Indian Americans (natives of India living in America).
12 posted on 09/16/2003 5:00:23 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: marvlus
The Indians in question are Oriental.
13 posted on 09/16/2003 5:02:25 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: NetValue
What about his obligations to the stinking mass of heathens in china and india? Surely he must serve them as well.
14 posted on 09/16/2003 5:03:59 AM PDT by fortaydoos
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I read one thing (Indian American) and thought another (American Indian). Thanks for setting me straight.
15 posted on 09/16/2003 5:04:20 AM PDT by marvlus
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The owners of the companies who are laying off american workers and hiring H1B's are the people writing the biggest campaign contributions. How much money can ya get out of a layed off IT worker anyways?
16 posted on 09/16/2003 5:05:39 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: risk
The invisable hand that people miss about the H1B is that folks from India work with folks that have immigrated and India is a socialist country. We are importing their political system, that they think just needs a little work. The are trying out socialism in America because they all think that Ameirca can fix their stupid politcal and social systems.

They keep giving advantages to a few via their new caste systems and forget that we give liberty to all. Let them work in India.

Build a database of out of work american IT people and let them telecommute. That IT staffing and IT pros have not figured out how to write the code using out of work IT people from the pockets of telecom or silicon shows how narrow is the vision of too many IT business people.

17 posted on 09/16/2003 5:07:21 AM PDT by q_an_a
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Bush,Davis,Bustamante, and most of the rest couldn't care less about the backbone of this country.I think they have contempt for us.As long as we let them spit on us they will never stop ruining our future.
18 posted on 09/16/2003 5:07:38 AM PDT by novacation
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To: NetValue
Both major parties are in favor of illegal immigration, despite the overwhelming majority of Americans who want our borders protected.
19 posted on 09/16/2003 5:09:41 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: TopQuark
I heard a radio interview with the head of the Iowa GOP. She was asked if the economy would hurt Bush's reelection chances.

She blathered on about the "recovery" in progress.

The interviewer pointed out that it is a "jobless recovery".

The Iowa GOPer responded: "In the new economy, unemployment levels are not important."

IOW: Let them eat cake.

Regards

J.R.

20 posted on 09/16/2003 5:12:14 AM PDT by NMC EXP (Choose one: [a] party [b] principle.)
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