Posted on 09/15/2003 6:42:16 AM PDT by kattracks
After telling a national radio audience last week that there was no connection between the World Trade Center attacks and Saddam Hussein, "Meet the Press" host Tim Russert got an earful on Sunday from Vice President Dick Cheney, who outlined a mountain of evidence tying Iraq to the 9/11 catastrophe.
Recalling that he had told Russert two years ago that he knew of no Iraqi link to the attack, Cheney said Sunday, "Subsequent to that, we've learned a couple of things."
The Vice President contended that more recent evidence indicates "that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example."
Though he did not specifically mention the South Baghdad terrorist training camp Salman Pak, where radical Islamists rehearsed 9/11-style hijackings on a Soviet-era Tupelov 154 airliner, Cheney noted that "al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved."
Cheney also cited reports of a meeting between lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta and an Iraqi in intelligence agent in Prague just months before the attacks, saying that U.S. intelligence has not yet been able confirm or discredit the information.
In perhaps his most startling remarks, the vice president became the first White House official to argue that there was a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda's attempt to destroy the World Trade Center in 1993, telling Russert:
"We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we've learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."
The vice president might have also mentioned that Ramzi Yousef, who masterminded the 1993 attack and whose laptop computer contained plans to crash U.S. airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, entered the U.S. with an Iraqi passport.
After his capture in 1995, the FBI flew Yousef over the World Trade Center and reminded him that his plan to destroy the Twin Towers had not succeeded. His reported response - "Not yet."
Last Wednesday Russert insisted to radio host Don Imus, "No one will say there was a direct involvement of Saddam Hussein in Sept. 11. ... There's no direct link that can be substantiated." The full exchange between Russert and Vice President Cheney on the evidence tying Iraq to 9/11 went like this:
RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?
CHENEY: No. I think it's not surprising that people make that connection.
RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
CHENEY: We don't know. You and I talked about this two years ago. I can remember you asking me this question just a few days after the original attack. At the time I said no, we didn't have any evidence of that. Subsequent to that, we've learned a couple of things. We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization.
We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we've learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.
Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in '93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we've had the story that's been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we've never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don't know. [End of Excerpt]
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Unfortunately for them, bin Laden has already claimed the credit. So, now they have to deny the links between bin Laden and anybody else!
When the facts get in his way, Tim slides over them with clintonian style, caring less about truthfully informing our fellow citizens. Tim would rather use innuendo to damage actual known facts than in to ever allow anything positive about this administration to creep thru his dialogue.
It has to hurt to be Tim Russert.
The clintons have done this to the liberals.
Their anger stems from their guilt...at least in those who still have a conscience.
Seized in 1995, it detailed the "bojinka" (Bosnian for "big bang") project, an elaborate plan to plant bombs for simultaneous detonation on up to 13 aircraft over the Pacific. That got everyone's attention. But there was also a sketchier scenario on the laptop about hijacking aircraft and flying them into "government buildings" in Washington.
Insight mag May 27th, I don't have a direct link for you, but this will get you there:
www.okcbombing.org/News%20Articles/Insightmag_052702.htm
I mentioned this exact same point to Destro( I think) the other day on a thread.
We have the intelligence files and they are a gold mine!
No he didnt. He used some phrase like some say.... Maybe you ought to read a transcript the day after if you are not capable of watching it live without your internal censor causing you trouble.
Cheney still says there is no evidence that Saddam knew of and funded/directed the 9/11 attacks. He merely was pointing out that there were some connections between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Is there a link between Saddam and terrorism, yes. Is there any proof that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11? No and that was the point of the question. 9/11 means the attacks on NY and Washington, not supporting terrorism in general.
Your logic is about the same as saying that Reagan ordered the Israelis to attack the Osirik Nuclear plant in 1981 to destroy Iraq's nuclear program. Reagan didnt order it, he didnt fund it, he may have known it was going to happen but so did any thinking person.
Regarding 2)He stated as fact that the US was not at all welcomed as liberators.
The transcript reads as follows:
MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn to one of the most quoted passages from MEET THE PRESS when you were on in March, and that was trying to anticipate the reaction we would receive from the Iraqi people. Lets watch:
(Videotape, March 16, 2003):
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.
MR. RUSSERT: If your analysis is not correct and were not treated as liberators but as conquerors and the Iraqis begin to resist particularly in Baghdad, do you think the American people are prepared for a long, costly and bloody battle with significant American casualties?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I dont think its unlikely to unfold that way, Tim, because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. Ive talked with a lot of Iraqis in the last several months myself, had them to the White House. The president and I have met with various groups and individuals, people whove devoted their lives from the outside to try and change things inside of Iraq.
The read we get on the people of Iraq is theres no question but what they want to get rid of Saddam Hussein and they will welcome as liberators the United States when we come to do that.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: We have not been greeted as liberated.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, I think we have by most Iraqis. I think the majority of Iraqis are thankful for the fact that the United States is there, that we came and we took down the Saddam Hussein government. And I think if you go in vast areas of the country, the Shia in the south, which are about 60 percent of the population, 20-plus percent in the north, in the Kurdish areas, and in some of the Sunni areas, youll find that, for the most part, a majority of Iraqis support what we did.
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