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Angry Democrats: Florida and Beyond--Why is the left so mad?
Wall St Journal ^ | 9-15-03 | ROBERT L. BARTLEY

Posted on 09/15/2003 5:02:24 AM PDT by SJackson

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Rep. Dick Gephardt castigates President Bush as "a miserable failure," and Sen. John Kerry calls for "regime change" in the White House. Even while distancing himself from the rest of the dwarves over Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman calls George Bush a "cowboy," echoing Sen. Mark Hanna's description of that miserable failure Theodore Roosevelt.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; electionpresident; robertlbartley
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To: Snuffington
Parties are essentially no more than loose alliances whose diverse memnbers temporarily agree about how to get certain things done. People who are shocked to find disagreement within their own party don't understand what parties are.

Thank you for elaborating on my thoughts. That certainly dewfines and identifies the folly and uselessness of confusing the means with the ends.

41 posted on 09/15/2003 9:39:59 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: SJackson
I think it is even more basic. They hate Bush and Ashcroft because they are devote Christians.

Most leftist know they are doing wrong in their lives, and they hate people who are doing what is right. They want to believe that no one can do right. That it is too hard. Then, they see Bush and Ashcroft, and it makes them insanely angry.

I have some left-wingers in my family, and I have some left-wing friends. I know of what I speak.

42 posted on 09/15/2003 9:54:18 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: Publius6961
Ignorant is it? I'll give it a rest when the label Rhino is dropped from the party I belong to and those on the far right stop insisting they get their way no matter what the outcome. I.E. Pat Buckanans split. Reagan had a golden rule..do not speak ill of your fellow party members..problem is the religious right has forgotten that rule. If they get their man in from the party, no matter what his veiws, they might just get some of their agenda passed. But nope, got to have it all at once and yesterday. And I dont speak of things like the 10 commandment issue in Al or the rule one nation under god in the pledge. I speak of issues like the dreaded abortion issue. The would get a more favorable law in re the abortion issue if they would work to get at least a moderate in office in the northeast in more states.
43 posted on 09/15/2003 11:37:12 AM PDT by crz
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To: Samwise
For the life of me, I can't understand their devotion to this false messiah. He has betrayed everyone who has ever placed any faith in him. He betrayed his wife, family, country, and his party--always doing what was best for his twisted ego.

I am baffled.

Never fear, I am here. I can explain.

What you missed was the link of the above statement to the central core of the Democratic Party philosophy.

Perhaps seeing the below actually written out will help you.

DEMOCRATIC PARTY OATH:
I promise to betray everyone who has ever placed any faith in me. I will betray my wife, family, country, and even my party--always doing what is best for my twisted ego.

44 posted on 09/15/2003 11:50:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: SJackson
because they are out of power...like the anti-war nuts when no one would listen to them, they throw temper tantrums and become illogical.
45 posted on 09/15/2003 11:51:30 AM PDT by jonalvy44
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To: crz
There is no question in my mind now that a rest would do you good.
Did you notice at all that I did not attack anyone for not agreeing with me? What others think is irrelevant. What others call me is irrelevant.

I just know that some things are more important than others, and that many become moot if the other more critical issues are not addressed.

Using labels and ranting are totally ineffective.

Have a nice day.

46 posted on 09/15/2003 12:02:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: SJackson
My theory is that the issues that used to unite the Democrats have less traction than they once had. Take abortion. A lot of young people who are getting involved in vegetarianism and animal rights issues. These people are naturally Democrats, but more than a few of them are pro-life. After all, one of their overriding concerns is expanding the definition of protected life.

The issue of Israel also splits the left. Most Jewish Democrats are very pro-Israel, while the radical side of the Democratic party believes all of Arafat's press releases.

The list goes on. The labor unions don't support a lot of the environmental initiatives. Many on the left believe welfare goes along with some accountability while others talk about welfare as a "right."

The problem is that left tends to be very passionate about their issues, so fighting within the party could lead to very passionate disagreements and a weakening of the left as a whole. To prevent this occurrence, the left concentrates on attacking conservatives. On this issue, at least, unity reigns among the left.
47 posted on 09/15/2003 12:08:15 PM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Publius6961
I can tell your a democrat.
48 posted on 09/15/2003 12:18:48 PM PDT by crz
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To: SJackson
The Democrat Party: The Party of Perjury and Obstruction of Justice; the Party of Corruption; the Party of Election Fraud; the Party of Race-Baiting; the Party of Class Envy and Warfare; the Party of Demagoguery; the Party of Appeasement; the Party of Sedition; the Party of angry white physicians from Vermont; the Party of Hand-wringers, Gloom-and-Doomers, Naysayers and Nitpickers...

"We're the Democrat Party....Dividing Americans for Nearly 200 Years!”™

49 posted on 09/15/2003 12:51:02 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: crz
Wrong. The centrist Republican Party will not tolerate conservatives, those who want to reduce the size of government, or eliminate socialist programs. They don't oppose socialism, they just want to be in charge instead of those "disagreeable folks."
50 posted on 09/15/2003 1:11:04 PM PDT by rcofdayton
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To: rcofdayton
Like I said. There will be a three party system. And the moderates will control. To bad the strict right doesnt realize they could win some issues by working within the party for their issues instead of working against the party to obstruct. That leaves the door open for those like Ross Perot to show up and allow for another Clinton to be elected like the early 90s when many moderate republicans got sick and tired of the howling from the strict right and voted for Perot. In short, you win the battles first before you win the war, something the strict right cant get through their heads.
51 posted on 09/15/2003 2:26:33 PM PDT by crz
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Bump!
52 posted on 09/16/2003 1:31:29 AM PDT by XHogPilot
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