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This isn't adoption in the sense of the state giving a gay couple the child of some other biological parents. This boy is biologically the son of one of his parents. He is a wanted child and his fathers may be a lot more committed to his welfare than many straight parents.

Abuse? Only if he isn't loved and cared for properly. My sister-in-law had unwanted three kids out-of-wedlock and she came around to take care of them pretty well. I'm not ready to say she should lose custody. I just wish she'd married before she carried.

I believe that the ideal is a two-straight-parent, married, one-religion home, but it is quite possible to raise a healthy child in a home that isn't ideal. Widows, grandparents, and abandoned mothers (and fathers) have to do it all the time. There are Catholics married to Jews who have to figure out how to raise the kids, and things get confused spiritually. Eventually the children sort things out and come to terms with them. We all have to deal with our parents' shortcomings and quirks.

I KNOW a gay man who married and raised a family, and has tried very hard to live as if he is straight. But he isn't straight and no amount of wishing will make him so. He has the same commandments to keep that I do. He is tempted to have sex with other men, while I'm tempted to hold on to grudges--I can "go to hell" just as easily as he can, though my sins would probably be counted as less serious than his. I don't think it works that way. Falling short is falling short. Damnation is damnation. And fortunately, Jesus is prepared to take all our sins away if we forsake them. Sometimes it takes a little time to get to the point where you can. God help those who are trying to get there!

I admire him for his self-control and for his determination to keep his wife as happy as possible and to shield his children from what he feels. He can do that because he loves God more than he loves himself. That's a precious gift, and one that most of humanity lacks, obviously. I wish all gay people could set aside their impulses and desires to do what God has ruled is best for us. Barring that, I wish that all children could have a good, two-parent, Christian home.

Since none of this is going to happen, I just hope everyone will do the best they can do. Until the Millenium, those of us who know what God expects us to do will try to do it, and while we do so, we have to live with those who are too blind and stiff-necked to do so themselves.

These two gay men would make better neighbors than a married straight atheist/Demonrat couple running a meth lab would. They may even be better parents than some of the straights you personally know. If you know of some vast, secret pool of perfect parents, I'll get behind you and say we should take all children away from gay parents so they can go to perfect ones with no "handicaps" in their parenting ability.

I KNOW a gay man who married and raised a family, and has tried very hard to live as if he is straight. But he isn't straight and no amount of wishing will make him so.

However reparative therapy, or any other number of therapies have been proven to be effective at curing this disease. Thousands of people have been cured already. All he has to do is admit that he is sick and seek the cure. That first step is what keeps most 'homosexuals' sick. They refuse to admit it.

(BTW the bible supports this line of argument:
1 Cor 6:9 ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

[The phrase "Abusers of themselves with mankind" can only be translated 'homosexual' as the term is used today.]

So we see that some Christians used to be 'homosexuals' but aren't any more.

(And yes I've read the bible, cover to cover, many times.)

I wish all gay people could set aside their ~~impulses and desires~~SIN to do what God has ruled is best for us. Barring that, I wish that all children could have a good, two-parent, Christian home.

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These two gay men would make better neighbors than a married straight atheist/Demonrat couple running a meth lab would.

Possibly

They may even be better parents than some of the straights you personally know.

Absolutely not. By teaching the children entrusted to their care that sexual abomination is normal and healthy they are dragging these children into hell with them. The kids would be better off being beaten to death while they were still innocent.