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America's Hidden Battlefield Toll
Guardian/Observer ^ | 9-14-03 | Jason Burke and Paul Harris

Posted on 09/13/2003 9:16:27 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy

The true scale of American casualties in Iraq is revealed today by new figures obtained by The Observer, which show that more than 6,000 American servicemen have been evacuated for medical reasons since the beginning of the war, including more than 1,500 American soldiers who have been wounded, many seriously.

The figures will shock many Americans, who believe that casualties in the war in Iraq have been relatively light. Recent polls show that support for President George Bush and his administration's policy in Iraq has been slipping.

The number of casualties will also increase pressure on Bush to share the burden of occupying Iraq with more nations. Attempts to broker an international alliance to pour more men and money into Iraq foundered yesterday when Colin Powell, the US Secretary of State, brusquely rejected a French proposal as 'totally unrealistic'.

Three US soldiers were killed last week, bringing the number of combat dead since hostilities in Iraq were declared officially over on 1 May to 68. A similar number have died in accidents. It is military police policy to announce that a soldier has been wounded only if they were involved in an incident that involved a death.

Critics of the policy say it hides the true extent of the casualties. The new figures reveal that 1,178 American soldiers have been wounded in combat operations since the war began on 20 March.

It is believed many of the American casualties evacuated from Iraq are seriously injured. Modern body armour, worn by almost all American troops, means wounds that would normally kill a man are avoided. However vulnerable arms and legs are affected badly. This has boosted the proportion of maimed among the injured.

There are also concerns that many men serving in Iraq will suffer psychological trauma. Experts at the National Army Museum in London said studies of soldiers in the First and Second World Wars showed that it was prolonged exposure to combat environments that was most damaging. Some American units, such as the Fourth Infantry Division, have been involved in frontline operations for more than six months.

Andrew Robertshaw, an expert at the museum, said wars also claimed casualties after they were over.

'Soldiers were dying from injuries sustained during World War I well into the 1920s,' he said.

British soldiers are rotated more frequently than their American counterparts. The Ministry of Defence has recently consulted the National Army Museum about psychological disorders suffered by combatants in previous wars in a bid to avoid problems.

The wounded return to the USA with little publicity.

Giant C-17 transport jets on medical evacuation missions land at Andrews Air Force Base, near Washington, every night.

Battlefield casualties are first treated at Army field hospitals in Iraq then sent to Landstuhl Regional Medical Centre in Germany, where they are stabilised.

Andrews is the first stop back home. As the planes taxi to a halt, gangplanks are lowered and the wounded are carried or walk out. A fleet of ambulances and buses meet the C-17s most nights to take off the most seriously wounded. Those requiring urgent operations and amputations are ferried to America's two best military hospitals, the Walter Reed Army Medical Centre, near Washington, and the National Naval Medical Centre, Bethesda.

The hospitals are busy. Sometimes all 40 of Walter Reed's intensive care beds are full.

Dealing with the aftermath of amputations and blast injuries is common. Mines, home-made bombs and rocket-propelled grenades are the weapons of choice of the Iraqi resistance fighters. They cause the sort of wounds that will cost a soldier a limb.

The less badly wounded stay overnight at the air base, where an indoor tennis club and a community centre have been turned into a medical staging facility. Many have little but the ragged uniforms on their backs. A local volunteer group, called America's Heroes of Freedom, has set up on the base to provide them with fresh clothes, food packages and toiletries. 'This is our way of saying, "We have not forgotten you,"' said group founder Susan Brewer.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: casualties; iraq; oef; oif; wia
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To: concerned about politics
The first few paragraphs are tough to get through, but if you continue reading, the meat of the article is interesting.
41 posted on 09/13/2003 9:32:13 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I see how the Observer might be using it for liberal purposes, but the subject matter is valid. It does need to be discussed.

There are really two issues here.

1)It's not some big secret, like the media portrays it. The info is out there, both through Pentagon briefings and other sources - however being wounded is not as "glamorous" as being killed or captured, and so the media doesn't pay it any attention, except to report the overall number.

2)If people actually knew how many were wounded everyday, it may shut them up about Iraq being easy or that the war is over.

There are still people, even today, who think our troops have it easy in Iraq (and Afghanistan) - they don't realize that everyday, our troops are attacked somewhere in Iraq.

If you keep up on the news about the war, you'll see that 5-10 American soldiers are wounded every day, give or take half a dozen. We have patrols being attacked every single day, and one grenade can easily wound three or four of our troops alone.

The thing is, everytime we have troops attacked and wounded, our troops are giving more than they are getting. The Iraqi/outside terrorist bodycounts our troops are running up, while not publicized, is quite high.

42 posted on 09/13/2003 9:32:51 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: concerned about politics
I hope that we win soon in Iraq, cuz I fear the Rats wil win in 04
43 posted on 09/13/2003 9:33:17 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: Cathryn Crawford
It does need to be discussed.

Then they will become political footballs and we will have contributed. They don't deserve that.

44 posted on 09/13/2003 9:33:24 PM PDT by Consort
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To: PatrioticCowboy; AntiGuv; seamole; Arkinsaw; Cathryn Crawford
<< .... the weapons of choice of the "Iraqi resistance fighters .... "

God forbid any one of the psychopathologically-hesperophobic and un-and-anti-American EURO-peon Neo-Soviet's squalidly-socialist-satellite-state's scribes should ever call a bloody terrorist a "bloody terrorist."
45 posted on 09/13/2003 9:33:40 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PatrioticCowboy; Shooter 2.5
ping
46 posted on 09/13/2003 9:34:21 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I have no idea -- you might be right.
47 posted on 09/13/2003 9:34:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
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To: Cathryn Crawford
"I want to know how many soldiers have been injured, personally. I don't know why we don't talk about them."

I don't either, but there is nothing hidden about these figures at all. They have been public knowledge right from the beginning. Al Guardian's own attributions do not justify their headline, which implies a cover-up, or their conclusions. Can anyone say "strawman"?

The statement "most Americans will be shocked by..." is another strawman, and clairvoyant authoritarianism as well, since Al Guardian has no rational basis for presuming to speak for "most Americans."

49 posted on 09/13/2003 9:35:33 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: Timesink
Note that they lie in the very first paragraph. "6000 evacuated for medical reasons," yet only "1500" actually hurt. The other 4500 could be anything from Section 8s to guys that got sunburns or dehydration, were given a day off and then sent right back.

Pregnancy.

50 posted on 09/13/2003 9:36:32 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (The inconceivable we do immediately.)
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To: Brian Allen
They done the same thing in Rhodesia and Namibia and South Africa.

They called Mrxist terrorists "freedom fighters".

Even the main-line churches here in America gave agitprop help to them
51 posted on 09/13/2003 9:36:36 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: PatrioticCowboy
Mrxist= Marxist
53 posted on 09/13/2003 9:37:42 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: section9
And more Americans were killed in the 3 day battle of Gettysburg than were killed during the entire Vietnam war.

War is hell.

54 posted on 09/13/2003 9:38:03 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry
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To: PatrioticCowboy
It may very well be leftist drivel, but it still needs discussed

Very well. War is terrible. Lots of people die fighting for us. But, soldiers know that they are saving countless others. We should be thankful, and all Brits should be thankful that they can go to bed tonight not speaking German.

55 posted on 09/13/2003 9:38:31 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I don't understand how this is liberal drivel.

I'll tell you why. They try to make this sound like we are being beaten and need to rethink the policy. At the rate of 44 a day, 5,874 Americans have been murdered since May 1, 2003. Like it or not, our losses in Iraq are low.

56 posted on 09/13/2003 9:38:46 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: seamole
I hope you are right
57 posted on 09/13/2003 9:38:50 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: I got the rope
The British press must be retarded
58 posted on 09/13/2003 9:39:59 PM PDT by PatrioticCowboy
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To: PatrioticCowboy
"A local volunteer group, called America's Heroes of Freedom, has set up on the base to provide them with fresh clothes, food packages and toiletries. 'This is our way of saying, "We have not forgotten you,"' said group founder Susan Brewer."



If I weren't in my 50s, I'd somehow be over there. I'm in the DC area. I guess the best I can do is volunteer with this group. Anyone have any email addys for Susan Brewer or the group??
59 posted on 09/13/2003 9:40:04 PM PDT by bart99
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To: Cathryn Crawford; PatrioticCowboy
It does need to be discussed.

Discuss away. Nobody's stopping you. What exactly would you like to discuss about it?

60 posted on 09/13/2003 9:40:27 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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