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To: Reagan Man; DoughtyOne; Tamsey; Tempest; My2Cents; redlipstick; EggsAckley; FairOpinion; ...
I see you're still confused about life. Tough luck.

Right! He still hasn't "learned"...

The Scorched Earth Credo

I'm sure you'll continue to try to endarken...er, enlighten him, though.

Dan

31 posted on 09/13/2003 6:31:13 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

Great points Dan! But it'll fall on deaf ears. They somehow think a bustamante win is a good thing...that it will make it easier for a "real" conservative to win the governor's office in 2006. Nevermind what incredible damage bustamante can or will do in the next three years.

Go cruz Mcclintock!

33 posted on 09/13/2003 6:37:18 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: BibChr
Hello BibChr...

Looks like a debate...(understanding that your statements reflect sarcasm...)

Winning is bad, losing is good

What is happening here, is that we are compromising first and bargaining from there. We should begin with Strength, then bargain in order to advance our agenda...

Voting is about feeling good, not getting things done

Voting itself is about advancing the cause, similar to what you said, but you should never feel badly about a vote you cast. If you cast your vote as the lesser of two evils, you have chosen something better. But if both preferred candidates have beliefs that are against your soul, you should not vote for either one.

A B+ is an F, because anything less than perfect is EEEEEEEEVILLLLL

This argument is not worth consideration, since no candidate is perfect for everyone.

Better to take eighty-seven "principled" steps backward that one step forward

One does not take "principled" steps backward. Because someone chooses principle over winning, does not mean they are moving backwards...however the opposition is moving forwards. This is the balance we must always take to the polls. Do we hold the line? Do we stand on principles and hope others agree advancing our agenda? Do we sit on the sidelines? All three are part of voting.

Better to lose fourteen things you already have than gain only one of the ten you want

Argument is the same as above but with different numbers.

Better to use Reagan's name than do what Regan said and did

Why do you feel that Reagan Man is outside of what you think Reagan would have us do? It is a fair question...

DD

38 posted on 09/13/2003 6:55:27 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: BibChr
If Ronald Reagan could speak out, he would be appalled and outraged, at whats taking place in his home state. Reagan wouldn't recognize the Golden State GOP any longer. Not only is California in total meltdown, but the state GOP has lost its credibility and is on automatic pilot, cruising towards self-destruction. The California GOP has totally abandoned the conservative agenda of the party platform.

Politics is about winning and holding power, but not at any cost. For a conservative Republican, "not at any cost" means, not at the cost of electing a liberal.

Throwing away, setting aside or surrendering ones conservative principles to elect a liberal like Schwarzenegger, the next governor of California, is not my idea of winning either.

55 posted on 09/13/2003 8:45:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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