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1 posted on 09/12/2003 7:26:43 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Steyn's great, as usual.
23 posted on 09/12/2003 8:24:49 PM PDT by GOPJ
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"This can happen to anyone, anywhere," said Annika, described as "a 24-year-old bystander", at the scene of the attack. "She should have had bodyguards."

Some breathing human being actually said this?

Ms. Annika, would the bodyguards even have a right to inflict any harm on would-be attackers? In England, individuals don't, and their bodyguards probably don't either.

25 posted on 09/12/2003 8:39:24 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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The tragedy of socialism is the abandonment of the individual. Imagine that! -- the cure-all state trades your life for the sake of the rest. That's like you're up against Utah Beach, and you turn around and your buddies are all hollering for your success from their boats offshore, as you walk the Nazi firing line. Americans who threw themselves at Normandy didn't do it for God and country, they did it for Mom and Dad, and then for God and country. If they had to do it for someone else, say, FDR, they'd have never gotten on the boats.

Imagine if Dubya tried to sell the Iraq war by saying that Saddam was a danger to the USofA. He'd have gotten as far as an Al Franken punch line. No, our soldiers did and do it for themselves first, then God and country. If it were the other way around, we'd be glorifying our soldiers' entrance to heaven, rather than crying over their each and every exit. There's no such thing as a suicide bomber in America.

Ferners will never understand it. I tried to explain it back in March to a Mexican friend by telling her that we were going to war in Iraq not because of WMD or the UN resolutions or anything else, but because I was afraid, and 250 million other Americans felt personally, themselves, afraid and under attack. She'll never understand.

Give yourself to the State, and nobody gives a damn for you, not even yourself. The lesson of the "no vacancy" signs at French morgues this summer has been lost to global warming. The crisis came not in death tolls, but in the treatment of the dead. A people that are fed by their government will expect the government to bury them, too. Oops, nobody showed up for the funeral.

Thank God for American individualism.
26 posted on 09/12/2003 8:43:19 PM PDT by nicollo
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picture
POLICE OFFICER: All right. Hold it right there.
KRAMER: What?
POLICE OFFICER: You're under arrest.
JERRY: Under arrest? What for?
POLICE OFFICER: Article 223-7 of the Latham county penal code.
ELAINE: What? No, no. We didn't do anything.
POLICE OFFICER: That's exactly right. The law requires you to help or assist anyone in danger as long as it's reasonable to do so.
GEORGE: I never heard of that.
POLICE OFFICER: It's new. It's called The Good Samaritan Law. Let's go.

Anyone from NY who thinks about this episode now, has moved to the polar opposite of opinion since 9/11. American culture has shifted from this laissez faire "right of every metropolitan to do nothing", Europe's popular culture, hasn't.

This murder is rife for conspiracy theorists. List the groups who opposed her or could gain advantage by her murder. Evil pro-Euro Yes camp, rabid muslims, far-right NO camp, neo-nazis, rabid enviromentalist lone nutso, Jorge Soros, ECB, Swede nationalists, trade unions, etc. "Warren commission Swede style" might wake up some of the Swedish population from their cradle to grave slumber. I hope there isn't a Sweidsh Oliver Stone "made" out of this tragedy.

27 posted on 09/12/2003 8:46:24 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Rummyfan
Steyn nails it again :-)

Thanks for the great post!
29 posted on 09/12/2003 8:56:26 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Rummyfan
This isn't an argument for guns

MMM, well, ok, then I'll do it. Buy a gun. Learn to use it.

30 posted on 09/12/2003 8:59:23 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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BTTT
31 posted on 09/12/2003 9:00:31 PM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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bump
37 posted on 09/12/2003 9:17:05 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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From what I rember that the "Lone Ranger" was a good guy! Let's hope that the President keeps it up!
38 posted on 09/12/2003 9:18:47 PM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!!])
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In Lee Harris's forthcoming book Civilization And Its Enemies, he talks about the threat of societal forgetfulness: "Forgetfulness occurs when those who have been long inured to civilized order can no longer remember a time in which they had to wonder whether their crops would grow to maturity without being stolen or their children sold into slavery by a victorious foe."

I am adding this book to my "Must Have" list.

I have been preaching this for the last ten years at least although I just call them "over civilized." It is not that they are cowards, violence has just been so far removed from them that they have no idea what to do when it breaks down the door.

And so they dither and delay trying to find a "civilized way" to deal with an uncivilized enemy. And in the mean time people just keep on dying. And they try warnings and people just keep on dying. And they want to try this or that because it is a “softer” approach and people keep on dying.

By the time that they can actually be moved to do something the body count is through the roof and then they cluck and shake their heads at the people who actually saved them because one of the bad guys got a boo boo.

They make me want to pound the walls and scream.

Sorry for the rant.

39 posted on 09/12/2003 9:21:30 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Retribution is inevitable. Sometimes, it's just not a good time to sing Kum-by-yah.)
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There seem to have been an awful lot of bystanders to Miss Lindh's stabbing - in broad daylight, in a crowded department store, after being pursued by her assailant up an escalator.

Bet she wouldn't have complained if the Lone Ranger showed up about then.

Becki

40 posted on 09/12/2003 9:39:16 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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These people have had self reliance bred out of them as they suckle on the breast of the state.
43 posted on 09/12/2003 9:50:45 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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it's more basic than that: it's the difference between a citizen and a nanny-state baby.

Brilliant!! LOL!!! and I loved this as well:

But, of course, no one will ever hijack an American plane ever again - not because of idiotic confiscations of tweezers, but because of the brave passengers on the fourth flight. That's why the great British shoebomber had barely got the match to his sock before half the cabin pounded the crap out of him. Even the French.

46 posted on 09/12/2003 11:59:58 PM PDT by lawgirl (Running from the Grand Ennui - Papa Nez)
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Most excellent!
47 posted on 09/13/2003 12:23:47 AM PDT by ValerieUSA
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One name comes to mind... Kitty Genovese.

Mark
50 posted on 09/13/2003 1:18:01 AM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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Ping
52 posted on 09/13/2003 3:06:44 AM PDT by knighthawk (Freedom is my believe, for you I would die)
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To: Rummyfan
Wonderful!
53 posted on 09/13/2003 3:25:59 AM PDT by lainde
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Nobody will ever be repeatedly stabbed in my presence - the attacker had better hope that their first cut is a good one.
54 posted on 09/13/2003 3:36:52 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Just a mudblood RINO)
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To: AnnaZ
Maybe we shouldn't have dinner with him, after all. ;^)

Great article!
59 posted on 09/13/2003 7:08:10 AM PDT by diotima (So it's sorta social, demented and sad, but social.)
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They, like those here that oppose carry laws, and shooting fleeing thugs, are waiting for the "government" and police to protect them. They have forgotten how to react to a threat other than calling for help.
60 posted on 09/13/2003 7:12:04 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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