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Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Intellectual Conservative ^ | September 12, 2003 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 09/12/2003 12:19:04 PM PDT by EllaMinnow

Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a social conservative, despite much rhetoric to the contrary. Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent without resort to laws, regulations and bureaucrats.

Social conservatism is a respect for tradition and for values which have withstood the test of time. Chinese family members who respect and support one another, even at the cost of personal wishes, are social conservatives whatever their metaphysical beliefs.

This definition of social conservatism as a matter of example rather than profession does not mean we agree on every detail of moral behavior. It means instead that we root ourselves in something permanent, dignified and civic. Even eccentricity can be socially conservative. British and American peoples are famous for producing men who, for want of a better term, are cranks. That is very much a part of the culture of these two nations.

At the heart of social conservatism is fidelity. Often men who are social conservatives are ideologically left of center. Jimmy Carter is a good example. By all appearances, Carter took his marital vows seriously and his religious faith seriously. He stopped serving hard liquor at White House dinners.

That did not prevent Carter from being a petty, spiteful and almost insufferable boor. And it certainly did not prevent Carter from being wrong on almost every issue. But it does mean that Jimmy Carter was a social conservative.

Joe Lieberman is also a social conservative, even if he supports terrible policies. Every indication is that Lieberman is a religiously serious Orthodox Jew. It is impossible to imagine Joe munching a bacon cheeseburger on Kol Nidre. Bill Bradley is another social conservative who loves his wife, gained his wealth and fame through guts and hard work, and sincerely believes in all the bad ideas he proposes.

The beauty of America, of course, is that social conservatism does not require being correct as much as being sincere. It does not require conformity to a particular catechism so much as it means conformity to some catechism. The bewildering variety of religions, sects, and societies in American life is a testament to Americans respecting in social life the same freedom to be wrong that we respect in our economic life. Indeed, social conservatism is another form of market choice which helps, through competition, to elevate cultures and traditions within America.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is made of the "right stuff.” There is no odor of phoniness about him. He loves his wife and family. He worked his way to the top with sweat and diligence. He resembles a number of other social conservative Republicans around President Bush who are not generally recognized as social conservatives.

Who? How about Colin Powell? He turned down the Presidency itself in 1996 out of respect for his wife and family. Does anyone question that what Powell believes, he believes sincerely? How about Tom Ridge, who was too liberal to be the running mate in 2000, but who putters around his home for recreation and grew up in the Marine Corps.

Tony Blair and Rudy Giuliani are social conservatives who we seldom see as social conservatives. Both these heroic figures do what they do publicly and because they believe it is right. Thank goodness both are on our side now--social conservatives dig their heels in very deeply!--but even when Giuliani supports abortion or Powell supports affirmative action, they can do so looking you straight in the eye with a polygraph examiner unable to detect a hint of spin in their answers.

This type of social conservative--guys doing what they think is right because they think it is right--is precisely the sort of man that President Bush has shown incredible skill in using to make America better. Our Texan President, our proudly Cowboy President, does not demand that anyone agree with him on every issue. In fact, such silly boys can be skimmed off the corporate boards of a hundred big companies.

He wants people who are true to themselves. He wants, and we should want, real social conservatives. Rabbis who read Torah as if it were holy writ. Priests who take their vows seriously. Men who honor their parents and are faithful to their wives. Men like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan or John Wayne, who will fight for what they think is right.

When Governor Schwarzenegger takes office, President Bush will find honor more valuable than agreement and grit more important than obedience. It will be a winning team, perhaps a team that can transform America.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: redlipstick
I sure stirred up the hornets, didn't I?

I just hoped you used a long stick or a rock to shake up the nest. A slingshot (and a pair of PF Flyers) worked well for me when I was a kid.

121 posted on 09/12/2003 1:17:53 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: strela
Did you say "crashing plane?" I thought so...


122 posted on 09/12/2003 1:18:18 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Never Forget.)
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To: redlipstick
By the same standard, Osama bin Laden is a social conservative.
123 posted on 09/12/2003 1:18:36 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: BlackElk; TheAngryClam; churchillbuff; ElkGroveDan; Gophack; kellynla; PeoplesRep_of_LA; Spiff; ...

Get ready for the single dumbest article you've read about the Recall Election. This is Mystery Science Theatre movie bad, you're brain is going to hurt after this one....unless you can laugh at it.

In summation, policies don't matter and the only substative definition of a Social Conservative is staying married and claiming to love your wife. I think nearly all Democrat politicians are now social conservatives based on this latest rationalization from the (R)nold Groupies at the ironically named "Intellectual Conservatives.com" have tried in their slash and burn technique against the English Language.

Tom Daschle is now a social conservative, as well as Howard Dean. Don't forget Nancy Pelosi who's still married, as well as Barbra Boxer, Dick Gephart...where does it all stop? Bill Clinton "loves" his wife.

These Groupies must be stopped.

124 posted on 09/12/2003 1:18:47 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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To: redlipstick
The sad part is....I think you're serious.
125 posted on 09/12/2003 1:19:15 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
These Groupies must be stopped.

Why, that sounds like a threat. You aren't threatening anyone here today, are you?

126 posted on 09/12/2003 1:20:04 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: strela
There probably is no one who is a perfect social conservative but Arnold has HARDLY ANY social conservative beliefs. I say hardly but he is against PBA which is not hard to be against. The funniest thing about this article is the title. Arnold is everything but a social conservative. Liberals are very good at trying to redefine a words so you cannot try to pull this one off (as you can see by the responses you are getting).

I would stop now before the ridicule gets unbeareable. You are not doing any favors for Arnold's camp. In fact, you might be driving a lot of social conservatives away who might have thought about voting for Arnold later in the race.

127 posted on 09/12/2003 1:20:24 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: Godebert
Serious? Surely you jest!
128 posted on 09/12/2003 1:20:55 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Never Forget.)
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To: eastsider
Bravo eastsider.
129 posted on 09/12/2003 1:21:06 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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To: truthandlife
Ah, the voice of reason...
130 posted on 09/12/2003 1:21:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: So Cal Rocket
Well, on average, we ALL have one testicle and one ovary.

LOL...I'm going to steal that.

131 posted on 09/12/2003 1:21:37 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican and Bushbot)
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To: Afronaut
With apologies to Mr. Orwell:

"Tell me, Winston - and remember, no lies; you know that I am always able to detect a lie - tell me, what are your true feelings toward Arnold?"

"I hate him."

"You hate him. Good. Then the time has come for you to take the last step. You must love Arnold. It is not enough to obey him; you must love him."


Two plus two does not equal five and never will. Arnold is not a social conservative (or a fiscal conservative for that matter) and never will be. As for me and my house, we will vote McClintock.
132 posted on 09/12/2003 1:21:38 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: ambrose
Free Tommy Chong?

Are you suggesting the recreational use of Hashish and Marijuana is socially conservative?
133 posted on 09/12/2003 1:21:41 PM PDT by Weimdog
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To: redlipstick
ROFL!

(Gotta pull up that Cheech and Chong bit about the kamikaze pilots later - I think it was on Big Bambu).

134 posted on 09/12/2003 1:22:24 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: DryFly
I think I missed the Five Minutes Hate. :P
135 posted on 09/12/2003 1:22:54 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: DryFly
Why...why...your post sounded almost *gasp* 'intellectual'!!

You mean you've read that book, too?? ;-)
136 posted on 09/12/2003 1:23:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Weimdog
Free Tommy Chong?

You have to read the fine print. You only get the free Chong when you buy a Cheech at the regular price.
137 posted on 09/12/2003 1:23:43 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: strela
Why, that sounds like a threat. You aren't threatening anyone here today, are you?

"Are you threatening me!"

Now you've gone and done it strela, all your rhetorical nonsense now has you paraphrasing Beavis.

138 posted on 09/12/2003 1:25:07 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
ROFL...
139 posted on 09/12/2003 1:26:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: redlipstick
"I'm an extreme liberal on social issues" - Arnold
140 posted on 09/12/2003 1:26:31 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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