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This is all a transparent effort to shore up support for Davis with Hispanics. It wont work. Bustamante continues to gain strength, and is assisted by the chaos in the GOP. If McClintock stays in another 2 weeks before leaving the damage will be too great for Schwarzenegger to overcome by Oct. 7.

If Selfish Tom stays in, we can only pray that the recall vote fails. Gray is far better than Cruz.

36 posted on 09/12/2003 9:32:20 AM PDT by montag813
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If McClintock stays in another 2 weeks before leaving the damage will be too great for Schwarzenegger to overcome by Oct. 7.

If Schwarzenegger wins, he will sign--not veto--these types of bills. Davis, Bustamante, Schwarzenegger... not a big difference between the three. All will bring down California (and the US), the only difference is the speed at which they will do it.

IF you are a true conservative, and IF you are serious about saving California, then you MUST vote for McClintock.

52 posted on 09/12/2003 9:46:53 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: montag813
This is all a transparent effort to shore up support for Davis with Hispanics. It wont work. Bustamante continues to gain strength, and is assisted by the chaos in the GOP. If McClintock stays in another 2 weeks before leaving the damage will be too great for Schwarzenegger to overcome by Oct. 7.

If Selfish Tom stays in, we can only pray that the recall vote fails. Gray is far better than Cruz.


What is it that makes Tom think that his lack of leadership in the state senate which is passing these bills will translate into leadership of the state as a whole?

What is disgusting is that the liberals don't even have to dig up any dirt on Tom, just run a list of bills that passed the State Senate and State Assembly while he was there.
112 posted on 09/12/2003 11:19:45 AM PDT by kingu
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To: montag813
I was sadly but pragmatically planning to vote for Arnie; yes, as an actor he has far greater appeal to the masses and should then be able to out poll a sitting member of the Davis administration.

But all this "selfish Tommy" stuff and the vindictive that seems so ready for dumping on anyone daring to note that Schwarzeneggar isn't even a tad bit conservative is pushing me back to basics.

Maybe if Arnie were willing to debate McClintock I'd go back to the 'reasonable' option but for now you can consider my vote as thrown away.

As to some other comments in this thread:
Free tuition has multiple benefits to the left - its a hand out to the teachers union as well as to the poor downtrodden border busters.

Someone else indicated that they didn't mind "educated, tax paying..." illegals gettng a a bite on college.
Really. really, wrong!
1. They are still illegal, legal residents still have to pay and legal immigrants (like from Oklahoma or Taiwan) DO have to pay. (You are not only rewarding crime but penalizing hones and legitimat citizens twice in order to do it)
2. Anything like this serves to draw others into the country and the state. While it might sound reasonable to comfy Americans, it's a magnet to people who start off with NO access to any kind of schooling.
3. The bill calls for an application for legal residence; see recent discussions about licenses, visas, etc. and recognize that that requirement would be 'lost' as soon as the program got into place. (Watch some bureaucrat determne that a consular matricular & drivers license constitute the first steps in legalization)
4. The state is broke, repeat, broke!
Do they expect the lottery kick-backs to cover this scheme or will the indian casinos kick in to support their cousins?
142 posted on 09/12/2003 12:52:52 PM PDT by norton
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Why not Schwarzenegger resign and let McClintock win?
241 posted on 09/15/2003 8:05:53 PM PDT by Travelgirl
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