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Navy: China Likely Has U.S. Spy Secrets
AP via The Las Vegas Sun ^ | September 11, 2003 | ROBERT BURNS

Posted on 09/11/2003 4:34:04 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife

The crew of a Navy spy plane that landed on China's Hainan Island in April 2001 after colliding with a Chinese fighter jet did not destroy all classified materials aboard, and it is "highly probable" that some fell into Chinese hands, Navy investigators concluded.

The report, which was released in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by Jane's Defense Weekly, blamed the Chinese fighter pilot for the collision and did not fault the Navy crew for failing to complete the destruction of classified information aboard the EP-3.

Specifics about the classified materials were deleted from the released version of the report, and the report did not address the possible impact of any compromise of official secrets.

"The destruction of classified material was accomplished while the aircrew was probably still in shock from the aircraft collision and the subsequent rapid descent of the aircraft and with very little time prior to landing," the report said.

It also found that "destruction of all classified materials onboard did not occur," and concluded that "compromise by the People's Republic of China of undestroyed classified material on PR-32 is highly probable and cannot be ruled out." PR-32 was the mission designation of the U.S. plane.

Materials classified as confidential, secret and top secret were, as a matter of normal practice, carried aboard the plane in papers, magnetic tapes, computer disks and computer hard drives, the report said.

The incident on April 1, 2001, caused a deep rift in U.S.-Chinese relations, made worse by China's decision to detain the 24 American crew members for 11 days and not permit the United States to fly the damaged EP-3 off Hainan Island. Instead it was removed in pieces and reassembled in the United States.

The Bush administration severed military-to-military relations with China, although limited ties have since been renewed.

The EP-3 crew belonged to Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron One, based at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, Wash. The investigation report said they were fully qualified and ready for the mission. The EP-3 is designed to conduct reconnaissance and collect electronic signals intelligence.

The Chinese F-8 fighter had intercepted the Navy plane and was maneuvering dangerously close to it as they flew over the South China Sea in international airspace. On a third close approach, the Chinese pilot lost control and slammed into the Navy plane, according to the report.

The Chinese plane was ripped in half. The pilot was never found and is presumed to have perished.

After the fighter struck the Navy plane's No. 1 propeller, causing the U.S. plane to shake violently and snap-roll to the left at about a 140-degree angle of bank, the aircraft commander gave the order for the crew to prepare to bail out. The plane was descending at a rate of 4,000 feet per minute until it reached an altitude of about 15,000, where it leveled off.

Procedures do not require that destruction of classified material begin in that situation. After the No. 1 engine was shut down and the plane became more controllable, the crew was directed to "prepare to ditch," meaning they would stay with the plane as it went down.

Although not required at that point, the crew began to destroy classified material, the report said. Some was jettisoned out a hatch, and equipment was smashed with an ax and other hard objects such as metal containers. Upon landing at a military air base on Hainan Island some remaining classified papers were shredded.

The Chinese military ordered the Americans off the plane and took control of it. The investigation report said the crew had hidden some classified materials on the plane and hand-shredded some papers.

"Therefore, compromise of undestroyed classified material is highly probable," it concluded.

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Associated Press writer John J. Lumpkin in Washington contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: china; classified; ep3; espionage; intelligence; secrets; spyplane; us

1 posted on 09/11/2003 4:34:05 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Since we were spying on China it would seem they already know what they have, yes?
2 posted on 09/11/2003 4:38:23 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: OldFriend
LOL... you have a point. I also found this interesting...

Although not required at that point, the crew began to destroy classified material, the report said. Some was jettisoned out a hatch, and equipment was smashed with an ax and other hard objects such as metal containers. Upon landing at a military air base on Hainan Island some remaining classified papers were shredded.

I think the crew did extremely well under the circumstances, and I have never heard anything to the contrary.

3 posted on 09/11/2003 4:41:31 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: OldFriend
The concern would be that classified collection methods would have been compromised, not the information collected per se.
4 posted on 09/11/2003 4:42:16 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Seems to me slick willie had already sold them all the technology they needed and were well aware of our capabilities.
5 posted on 09/11/2003 4:43:06 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I think the crew did extremely well under the circumstances, and I have never heard anything to the contrary.

I have, mostly from the Hee-Haw Constimatooshunalist folks who think Lieutenant Osborne should've deliberately flown the plane into the drink while leading the crew in a cheer for Dr. Ron Paul.

Funny thing about most of these folks; they never served.

BTW, the stuff that was destroyed or jettisoned was most likely very perishable stuff that lost its value in hours or days.

6 posted on 09/11/2003 4:44:06 PM PDT by Poohbah (Hee Haw was supposed to be a television show...not the basis of a political movement...)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
I saw the pilot interview about this. He had to fight hard and use all his flying skills to land that plane safely. It's a miracle they didn't crash.

Prairie
7 posted on 09/11/2003 4:45:13 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God rest the souls of the 9-11 victims. We Will Never Forget.)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
With their Most Favored Nation status and sweet trade deals Communist China can get all the technology secrets they want now.
Businesses are eager to build factories and to invest millions of dollars in China. For example, just last month Intel announced a $200 million manufacturing plant for semiconductors will be built in Mainland China.
What's a few more secrets.
8 posted on 09/11/2003 4:45:50 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: prairiebreeze
At the time, I believed the government's main concern was getting them back from the Chinese.

Funny about Americans. We seem to put a really high value on life.
9 posted on 09/11/2003 4:46:32 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: prairiebreeze
I went to high school with one of the enlisted aircrew on that plane. He came back to visit his hometown several months after the incident and said that the landing was the most terrifying event of his life.
10 posted on 09/11/2003 4:49:18 PM PDT by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Rubber_Duckie_27
Wow. yes that's what the pilot said... that it was just plainly a miracle they were able to land at all.

Prairie
11 posted on 09/11/2003 4:51:28 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God rest the souls of the 9-11 victims. We Will Never Forget.)
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To: prairiebreeze
I remember that a lot of the arm chair commandos here said they should have crashed the plane instead of land in China. Easier said than done I'm afraid.
12 posted on 09/11/2003 4:52:05 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: OldFriend
Seems to me slick willie had already sold gave them all the technology they needed and were well aware of our capabilities.

Note correction applied.

13 posted on 09/11/2003 5:22:11 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: prophetic
Well, I ought to have said, exchanged for campaign cash......
14 posted on 09/11/2003 5:26:16 PM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: OldFriend
THIS IS CRAP! Why in the hell didn't our navy personnel protect our nations secrets? That should have been the number one priority, even more important than landing the stupid plane.
15 posted on 09/11/2003 5:58:47 PM PDT by BOBWADE
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To: BOBWADE
The FIRST priority of the intel crew in the rear was to destroy ALL equipment and documents.

Part of the problem was the fault of the plane's crew who are NOT totally aware of the strategic importance of the equipment and data - they are NOT allowed back there (usually).

The plane crew neglected to tell the intel crew that they were being led to China until it was too late. Probably because of the classified data destructive devices that would have most likely destroyed the plane before landing.

Most people never realize that even the SR-71 pilots did not have the slightest idea what their true mission was. They weren't cleared for that information.
16 posted on 09/11/2003 6:15:19 PM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: BOBWADE
Pardon me, but IMHO your post is CRAP
17 posted on 09/12/2003 4:24:09 AM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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