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To: Wolfstar
After two years I found out this morning that my nine year old son still believed it was an accident. No, he's not a product of the public school system, he just was not able to accept the true cause of what happened two years ago. There was a video online set to the background music of Have You Forgotten. I showed him this and expected to see the falling bodies. But, I was even shocked to see a photo of one of the bloody dead. As his mom I feel horrible for not having screened it, but at the same time I also feel it was necessary for him to understand.
I just hope he doesn't have nightmares tonight.
29 posted on 09/11/2003 4:29:08 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Never Forget!)
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To: HungarianGypsy
This is your son's world too. He has to deal with it as it is, not as we wish it to be.

I don't know how kids can get from Winnie-the-Pooh to dealing with terrorism, but they only have a few short years to make the transition...hopefully with kindness and hope intact, but with no great illusions that everyone in the world is kind or will repay your hope.

I think the main thing we have to do is realize that exposing our kids to a lot of fictional violence and gore is unhealthy, but hiding real and historical violence from them might make them too vulnerable to greater emotional damage, if they ever have to confront a bad guy and never thought about what they'd do if and when it's their turn to say "Let's Roll."

I'm 38 and I've been a victim of crime a few times, and I've seen a few people who were out of control. I don't think anyone gets through life unscathed...you can't keep the rose-colored glasses on, and I think nine is about the age where they need to start coming off. :-( We have to teach our kids more than "Don't talk to strangers" if we want them to be able to tell us if the PE teacher's substitute is molesting kids and threatening anyone who tells.

It all stinks.

38 posted on 09/11/2003 4:36:44 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Focused, Relentless Charity Beats Random Acts of Kindness.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Didn't mean for children to see this, but if you believe it was necessary for him to see it, then trust your judgement. You know your son. Perhaps, one day in the future, he will do something to help prevent another 9/11.
41 posted on 09/11/2003 4:38:21 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: HungarianGypsy; Wolfstar
Thanks to Wolf for posting this. We all need to be reminded of the whole truth. Too many times the American public believes the sanitized version of events never knowing the true impact. Unfortunately very few will see these pictures. Wish I could give that wonderful dog a hug and a treat.

Gypsy, because of your post, I brought in my kids and asked them to explain to me what happened and then we discussed the posted pictures. They knew and understood OBL and Clinton and now Iraq. I was also thankful to hear that their Texas public school teachers are discussing it just as I would. Several have FNC on during class time. The school here did very well on 9/11/01 and I never heard any liberal slant or Bush bashing then or since.
77 posted on 09/11/2003 5:18:33 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: HungarianGypsy
After two years, my ten year old daughter asked me: "If we didn't know this was going to happen, how come all the tv cameras were on the buildings when it did happen?" She sounded angry. She's been wondering this all along. I felt terrible for not knowing her thoughts on this. She has never really wanted to speak about it in detail, ever.

When I told her the news cameras weren't filming until after the first plane hit (because it was a big news story) and happened to get coverage on the second plane, she sat down and sighed with relief. Then went and found a little rhinestone American Flag pin shaped as a star her grandmother gave her this spring, pinned it on her blouse and said, "I wanna wear this to school today." I told her I was very proud of her.

Two years....where have I been?

83 posted on 09/11/2003 5:35:02 PM PDT by swany
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To: HungarianGypsy
David Letterman's remarks on September 17, 2001...

cold opening and applause

Thank you very much.

Welcome to the Late Show. This is our first show on the air since New York and Washington were attacked, and I need to ask your patience and indulgence here because I want to say a few things, and believe me, sadly, I'm not going to be saying anything new, and in the past week others have said what I will be saying here tonight far more eloquently than I'm equipped to do.

But, if we are going to continue to do shows, I just need to hear myself talk for a couple of minutes, and so that's what I'm going to do here.

It's terribly sad here in New York City. We've lost five thousand fellow New Yorkers, and you can feel it. You can feel it. You can see it. It's terribly sad. Terribly, terribly sad. And watching all of this, I wasn't sure that I should be doing a television show, because for twenty years we've been in the city, making fun of everything, making fun of the city, making fun of my hair, making fun of Paul... well...

So, to come to this circumstance that is so desperately sad, I don't trust my judgment in matters like this, but I'll tell you the reason that I am doing a show and the reason I am back to work is because of Mayor Giuliani.

Very early on, after the attack, and how strange does it sound to invoke that phrase, "after the attack?", Mayor Giuliani encouraged us -- and here lately implored us -- to go back to our lives, go on living, continue trying to make New York City the place that it should be. And because of him, I'm here tonight.

And I just want to say one other thing about Mayor Giuliani: As this began, and if you were like me, and in many respects, God, I hope you're not. But in this one small measure, if you're like me, and you're watching and you're confused and depressed and irritated and angry and full of grief, and you don't know how to behave and you're not sure what to do and you don't really... because we've never been through this before... all you had to do at any moment was watch the Mayor. Watch how this guy behaved. Watch how this guy conducted himself. Watch what this guy did. Listen to what this guy said. Rudolph Giuliani is the personification of courage.

applause

And it's very simple... there is only one requirement for any of us, and that is to be courageous, because courage, as you might know, defines all other human behavior. And I believe, because I've done a little of this myself, pretending to be courageous is just as good as the real thing. He's an amazing man, and far, far better than we could have hoped for. To run the city in the midst of this obscene chaos and attack, and also demonstrate human dignity... my God... who can do that? That's a pretty short list. The twenty years we've been here in New York City, we've worked closely with police officers and the fire fighters and...

applause

...and fortunately, most of us don't really have to think too much about what these men and women do on a daily basis, and the phrase New York's finest and New York's bravest, you know, did it mean anything to us personally, firsthand? Well, maybe, hopefully, but probably not. But boy, it means something now, doesn't it? They put themselves in harm's way to protect people like us, and the men and women, the fire fighters and the police department who are lost are going to be missed by this city for a very, very long time. And I, and my hope for myself and everybody else, not only in New York but everywhere, is that we never, ever take these people for granted... absolutely never take them for granted.

applause

I just want to go through this, and again, forgive me if this is more for me than it is for people watching, I'm sorry, but uh, I just, I have to go through this, I'm...

The reason we were attacked, the reason these people are dead, these people are missing and dead, and they weren't doing anything wrong, they were living their lives, they were going to work, they were traveling, they were doing what they normally do. As I understand it (and my understanding of this is vague at best), another smaller group of people stole some airplanes and crashed them into buildings. And we're told that they were zealots, fueled by religious fervor... religious fervor. And if you live to be a thousand years old, will that make any sense to you? Will that make any Goddamned sense? Whew.

I'll tell you about a thing that happened last night. There's a town in Montana by the name of Choteau. It's about a hundred miles south of the Canadian border. And I know a little something about this town. It's 1,600 people. 1,600 people. And it's an ag-business community, which means farming and ranching. And Montana's been in the middle of a drought for... I don't know... three years? And if you've got no rain, you can't grow anything. And if you can't grow anything, you can't farm, and if you can't grow anything, you can't ranch, because the cattle don't have anything to eat, and that's the way life is in a small town. 1,600 people.
Last night at the high school auditorium in Choteau, Montana, they had a rally, home of the Bulldogs, by the way... they had a rally for New York City. And not just a rally for New York City, but a rally to raise money... to raise money for New York City. And if that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about the... the spirit of the United States, then I can't help you. I'm sorry.

applause

And I have one more thing to say, and then, thank God, Regis is here, so we have something to make fun of.

If you didn't believe it before, and it's easy to understand how you might have been skeptical on this point, if you didn't believe it before, you can absolutely believe it now... New York City is the greatest city in the world.

lengthy applause

We're going to try and feel our way through this, and we'll just see how it goes... take it a day at a time. We're lucky enough tonight to have two fantastic representatives of this town, Dan Rather and Regis Philbin, and we'll be right back.

to commercial
217 posted on 10/22/2003 5:46:52 AM PDT by longfellow (www.ROCKSOUPSTUDIOS.com)
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