[FreedomForce]

Can somebody debunk this bs? If you read through the "What Others Have Said" comments relating to this article, it's clear that the author is just another anti-Semite trying to pin 9-11 on the dirty jooz, but the article is has enough "net legs" that I think it needs debunking.

[AppyPappy]

How can he tell who is an Arab? Didn't this plane smash into thr ground?

[Lorenb420]

American Airlines Flight 77 Hijackers

The following have been named as the men who hijacked AA Flight 77, which left Washington's Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles before being flown into the Pentagon.

Khalid Almihdhar
Possible residences: San Diego and New York.
Listed as a passenger in seat 12B. A Yemeni national who is known to have met in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia with a senior aide to terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden who was a principal suspect in the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen. According to a law enforcement source, the CIA transmitted the information about Almidhar to the FBI and the Immigration and Naturalization Service and his name was placed on the INS watch list. However, he had already entered the United States by the time his name was placed on the list Aug. 24. The FBI has obtained the phone records from his mobile phone.

Newsweek reports the FBI had begun searching for Almihdhar before the attacks. The INS reportedly checked its databases and realized that he and associate Salem Alhazmi had entered the United States earlier in the year on business visas, giving a Marriott Hotel in New York as their address. The INS also learned the two men had entered the country in 2000 and had listed a Los Angeles hotel chain as their address.

One of five hijackers who worked out at a Gold's Gym in Greenbelt, Md., for a few days in September. The Associated Press quotes an instructor at Sorbi's Flying Club in San Diego as saying Almihdhar was interested in flying large planes, particularly Boeings.

Almihdhar was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui.
 

Nawaf Alhazmi
Possible residences: Fort Lee, N.J., Wayne, N.J., and San Diego, Calif.
Spent time in Chechnya with Salem Al-Hamzi. The Associated Press reports a flight instructor at Sorbi's Flying Club in San Diego said Al-Hamzi trained in a twin-engine Cessna in May 2000 with Khalid Almihdhar. They were interested in flying large planes, particularly Boeings, the flight instructor said. A car dealer in Wayne, N.J., confirms the FBI has confiscated his records on cars Alhazmi had rented.

Nawaf Alhazmi was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui.
 

Salem Alhazmi
Possible residences: Fort Lee and Wayne, N.J.
Listed as a passenger in seat 5F. Spent time in Chechnya with Nawaf Alhazmi. Was on a U.S. government watch list, along with his associate Khalid Almihdhar, before the attacks. Newsweek reports the Immigration and Naturalization Service checked its databases and realized he and Al-Midhar entered the United States earlier this year on business visas, giving a Marriott Hotel in New York as their address. The INS also learned the two men had entered the country last year and had listed a Los Angeles hotel chain as their address.

Salem Alhazmi was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui.
 

Hani Hanjour
Possible residences: Phoenix, Ariz., San Diego, Calif., New York
A Saudi Arabian national who went to live in the United Arab Emirates in 1999. Federal Aviation Administration records show someone named Hani Hanjour received a commercial pilot's license in 1999, listing a P.O. box in Saudi Arabia as his address.

An instructor at CRM Flight School in Scottsdale, Ariz., said Hanjour received training there from September through November of 1996. Hanjour returned again in December of 1997. He was trying for his private pilot's license but, the instructor says, was a very poor student who skipped homework and missed flights.

According to The Associated Press, Hanjour flew three times from a flight school at Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., in August. He ultimately received an FAA pilot's license. One of five hijackers who worked out at a Gold's Gym in Greenbelt, Md., for a few days in September.

He was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui.
 

Majed Moqed
Listed as a passenger in seat 12A.
One of five hijackers who worked out at a Gold's Gym in Greenbelt, Md., for a few days earlier this month. The FBI has obtained the phone records from his mobile phone.

He was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the indictment against Zacarias Moussaoui.
 

[AppyPappy]

From the article he cites:

The rest were killed on site, and for some, only pieces of tissue could be found.

[stylin19a]

If true, it only shows there are no Arabic NAMES on the list.

I wonder who, with any degree of certainty, can tell the race/nationality of anyone based on NAMES ?

People in the country illegally wouldn't even THINK of changing their names or using an alias, would they....

[Sam Cree]

They were all identified, I believe. The name "Mohammed Atta" comes to mind.

[Poohbah]

Well, let's add "Sierra Times" to the list of sites that push BS, right along with antiwar, DU, and DEBKA...

Good grief, this author is an idiot.

[Mr. Bird]

Well, a couple of things to ponder. How would an autopsy reveal the ethnicity of the deceased, especially if they were made dead in an explosive crash? The upsetting fact for Islamofascists is that the blood of an Israeli Jew could be damned near identical to that of an Islamic Jihadist.

If there were no Arabs on the plane, how to explain the voices speaking Arabic on the flight recorder? It is certainly possible that Islamist sympathizers with European names hijacked 77, but not very likely. Then you have the pesky detail of Al Qaeda actually admitting their guilt.

[muleskinner]

Oh, I don't know, all those Mohameds, Akmeds, and Abduls who were on the planes don't sound Swedish to me.

[MEG33]

Anyone have spare tin foil??

[mbynack]

Here's a URL for a website that looks at this:

http://www.marsearthconnection.com/manifests.html

The original passenger lists contained the names of the hijackers, but after they were identified as hijackers their names were moved from "passenger list" to the "Low-Life Scumsucking, terrorist, son's of pigs" list to keep from insulting the memory of the Americans who died.

[gridlock]

Can somebody debunk this bs?

Why bother. Anybody who would say anything this stupid is not going to be convinced by any amount of information or evidence you could give.

A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest.

[A Broken Glass Republican]

You can see this kind of America Hating CRAP posted all over DUhhh. And they believe it. That fact alone is enough for us to dismiss it.

[Radix]

Utter nonsense.

[Cooter]

From this: September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/Plane casualties

• American Airlines flight 77 IAD-LAX (The Pentagon): 64 people: 58 passengers (including 5 hijackers), 4 flight attendants, 2 pilots
  • Charles F. Burlingame III, 51, Virginia, Naval Academy graduate - Class of 1971, captain
  • David Charlebois, 39, Washington, D.C., first officer
  • Michele Heidenberger, 57, Chevy Chase, Maryland, flight attendant
  • Jennifer Lewis, 38, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
  • Kenneth Lewis, 49, Culpeper, Va., flight attendant
  • Renee May, 39, Baltimore, Ma., flight attendant
  • Khalid Almihdhar, suspected hijacker
  • Nawaf Alhazmi, suspected hijacker
  • Salem Alhazmi, suspected hijacker
  • Dr. Paul Ambrose, 32, physician.
  • Yeneneh Betru, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs, IPC
  • MJ Booth
  • Bernard Brown, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Suzanne Calley, 42, San Martin, Calif., Cisco Systems Inc.
  • William E. Caswell, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, U.S. Navy
  • Sarah Clark, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Zandra Cooper, Annandale, Va.
  • Asia Cottom, 11, student, Backus Middle School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • James Debeuneure, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Rodney Dickens, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Eddie Dillard
  • Charles Droz, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development, EM Solutions Inc.
  • Barbara G. Edwards, 58, school teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas
  • Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
  • Zoe Falkenberg, 8, University Park, Md.
  • Dana Falkenberg, 3, University Park, Md.
  • James Joseph Ferguson, 39, Washington, D.C., educational outreach director, National Geographic Society (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Darlene "Dee" Flagg, Millwood, Va.
  • Wilson "Bud" Flagg, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and pilot for American Airlines
  • Richard P. Gabriel Sr., 54, Great Falls, Va., managing partner, Stratin Consulting
  • Ian Gray, 55, Washington, president of healthcare consulting firm
  • Stanley Hall, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif., Raytheon Co.
  • Hani Hanjour, suspected hijacker
  • Bryan W. Jack, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
  • Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer, Metrocall Inc.
  • Ann Judge, 49, Great Falls, Virginia, National Geographic Society travel office manager (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Chandler Keller, 29, Boeing propulsion engineer in El Segundo, Calif.
  • Yvonne Kennedy, 62, retired staff member and volunteer with the Australian Red Cross.
  • Norma Khan, 45, Reston, Va., nonprofit organization manager
  • Karen A. Kincaid, 40, Washington, D.C., lawyer, Wiley Rein & Fielding
  • Dong Lee, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Co.
  • Dora Menchaca, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical research, biotech firm Amgen Inc.
  • Majed Moqed, suspected hijacker
  • Christopher Newton, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, Work Life Benefits
  • Barbara K. Olson, 45, conservative TV commentator, lawyer and wife of United States Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She had reported the hijacking to him by phone about 20 minutes before the plane hit the pentagon.
  • Ruben Ornedo, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing satellite communications engineer
  • Robert Penniger, 63, Poway, Calif., electrical engineer with BAe Systems
  • Robert R. Ploger III, 59, Annandale, Va., software architect, Lockheed Martin Corp.
  • Lisa J. Raines, 42, senior vice president of biotechnology firm Genzyme Corp.
  • Todd Reuben, 40, Potomac, Md., tax and business lawyer
  • John Sammartino, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech Inc.
  • Yang Shuyin, 61, Beijing, China
  • Diane Simmons
  • George Simmons
  • Mari-Rae Sopper, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women's gymnastics coach, UC-Santa Barbara
  • Robert Speisman, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
  • Norma Lang Steuerle, 54, Alexandria, Va.
  • Hilda Taylor, sixth grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington (National Geographic Society educational trip)
  • Leonard Taylor, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
  • Sandra Teague, 31, Fairfax, Va., physical therapist, Georgetown University Hospital
  • Leslie A. Whittington, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University professor
  • John Yamnicky, 71, Waldorf, Md., Naval Academy graduate - Class of 1952
  • Vicki Yancey, 44, Springfield, Va., Vredenburg
  • Zheng Yuguang , 65, Beijing, China

[billhilly]

I believe that M.D. following the author's name is shorthand for Muslim Dude. If he was a navy officer, he probably got out for reasons of insanity.

[mikegi]

It wasn't the Jooz, it was GWB himself. He had been in the White House for several months and those nubile interns got his attention. He decided that he needed to get rid of Laura. How to do it? Divorce? Nope, to much negative publicity. Arkancide? Nope, no one would believe she was suicidal. Massive fake terrorist attack? YES, that's the ticket! A stroke of genius: he could get rid of Laura while simultaneously gaining control of ME oil and giving it to Cheney's buddies at Halliburton.

Do you want proof? Here it is: do you think it was mere coincidence that GWB was thousands of miles away from DC at the time of the attacks while Laura sat in the White House with a big target on her back???

[piasa]

Wow, this hoaxmail is really making the rounds- it's on rense.com and indymedia and all the other marxist, maoist, left-of-far-left sites... but nowhere is it to be found on a legit site. It's even on this piece of crap site:

www.electgore04.com/issues/issues13.htm

I'll give it some credit though, when I searched on the author's name I got some guy who works in purchasing at the univeristy of Florida or some such thing but so far, no mention of Roswell or Area 51...

I notice the author somehow thinks we'll be impressed that he has an unverifiable background in the military (notice he mentioned no rank or time period of service) and is supposedly a Christian who also home schools (these things are important ingredients in every shallow DNC/Green Party effort to undermine the president in the eyes of traditional conservatives, who of course couldn't be expected to heed the words of a draft-dodging atheist member of the communist party, for example.

Of course, all of this "background info" is just there to try to get the foot in the door and is too vague to enable an easy check on the guy's identity- he may as well have listed himself as a Nigerian official in search of people dumb enough to give out their bank account numbers. The guy's resume is info which bears no relevence to the subject the letter claims to be about- it's just volunteered for the purposes of propaganda. Color me unimpressed.

For some reason we are also supposed to be awed and impressed so much by the guy's (if he is a guy and not some 27 year old liberal female permanent student at Berkley) alleged educational and occupational background that we accept his word as gospel. But his background appears unverifiable- conveniently so. There is no mention of the school he attended, nor a mention of where he works except a fuzzy reference to "private practice" and a broad generalization of living in New Orleans. I forget what this propaganda technique is called- an "appeal to caste-level or status," perhaps? Whatever it is called, it is a none-too crafty effort to impress the readers. After all, what does psychiatry have to do with the topic? Why bring it up?

And then he says he had to send for the list via a Freedom of Information Act request- which is BS.

(As is the "no Arab names on the list" thing.)

What a transparent load of crap. I wonder where the letter really originated?

[Timesink]

it's clear that the author is just another anti-Semite trying to pin 9-11 on the dirty jooz, but the article is has enough "net legs" that I think it needs debunking.

If this thing was published over two months ago and we're just hearing about it now, I think it was debunked by default.

[Ditto]

Here is the peraphrased transcript of one of the cell phone calls made by Jeremy Glick, who was traveling on Flight 93, to his wife. Jeremy was 6'-2" tall and weighed 220 pounds, he was former college Rugby player and excelled in Judo. Here is what he told his wife:

"Honey, it’s bad news."

"There are some very bad men on the plane. The men have a bomb and they have a knife. They are Arabic-looking men. They are wearing red headbands and there are three of them.".

"We've had no contact with the pilots, but the men have taken over the plane and have moved everyone to the back of the plane and left us here."

"Lyz I need to know something. One of the other passengers has talked to their spouse, and he said that they were crashing other planes into the World Trade Center. Is that true."

[His wife pauses, not knowing what to say, but finally tells him it is true. There is a pause of a few minutes after hearing this.]

"I love Emmy, take care of her. Whatever decisions you make in your life, I need you to be happy, and I will respect any decisions that you make. Now, I need some advice - what to do? Should we, you know, we’re talking about attacking these men, what should I do?"

[His wife pauses for a long while, but finally tells him she thinks he needs to do it, after which there is another puase for a couple of minutes.]

“OK, The others and myself have voted to attack the terrorists. I have my butter knife from breakfast.. You know, I’m going to leave the phone here. Stay on the line, I’ll be back."

[The father in law takes the phone as Jeremy's wife could not bear to listen. There was a few seconds of silence folowed by a scream. More silence followed by another scream ... then ... nothing. Jeremy never came back to the phone.]

[Sloth]

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