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Another study backs MS claims over Linux
ZDNet ^ | Sept 11, 2003 | Andy McCue

Posted on 09/11/2003 8:29:07 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort

Only Microsoft users on older versions of its desktop operating systems are likely to get any benefit from migrating to Linux, according to a new report by Gartner.

The report said the operating system and PC represent less than a third of the total cost of ownership and that migration should only be considered in a few situations. Michael Silver, VP and research director at Gartner, said in a statement that other costs such as labor, training and external services should be taken into account.

He said organizations should compare the costs and savings of a move to Linux with the cost and savings to upgrade to a newer version of Windows as the total cost of ownership will vary depending on which version of Windows is being considered, according to Gartner. "Enterprises running Windows 95 will likely see more benefits by a move to Linux than will enterprises using Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Windows 2000 and Windows XP include more modern technology than Window 95 and are generally more stable and incur lower costs,” said Silver.

Gartner revealed that while Linux has had success in the server market reducing costs, the same savings cannot be achieved on the desktop.

David Smith, VP and Gartner fellow, said in a statement: "Many servers are dedicated to running a single application; in many cases, it has been relatively easy for enterprises to replace specific servers, such as a web server, and implement Linux."

But the environment for Linux on the desktop is significantly different, he said.

"For those users, migration costs will be very high because all Windows applications must be replaced or rewritten," said Smith.

The report comes in the same week that a Microsoft-sponsored survey of just 12 companies claimed firms could save up to 28 per cent by developing certain programs with Windows rather than Linux.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Sadly no, many companies in house apps have a powerbuilder on the desktop interface..
21 posted on 09/11/2003 9:41:49 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: Leroy S. Mort
The report comes in the same week that a Microsoft-sponsored survey of just 12 companies claimed firms could save up to 28 per cent by developing certain programs with Windows rather than Linux.

"Just twelve (12) companies", huh ? ... Filed in the round drawer ...
22 posted on 09/11/2003 9:56:03 AM PDT by pyx
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To: Leroy S. Mort
"For those users, migration costs will be very high because all Windows applications must be replaced or rewritten,"

I'm guessing he means in-house applications here, not Office-type suites, etc.

Isn't Microsoft pushing for those apps to be written/rewritten in .NET anyway? So how is it an added cost if Microsoft is pushing for migration to its .NET paradigm? I think a more accurate assessment would be achieved by comparing the cost of converting to where Microsoft wants those apps to go, .NET, versus Linux and Java or whatever.

23 posted on 09/11/2003 10:15:00 AM PDT by Gee Wally
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To: FastCoyote
I'd recommend looking at PostgreSQL as an alternative to MySQL. Both have features that the other lacks but PostgreSQL is more "enterprise" level than MySQL, in my opinion.
24 posted on 09/11/2003 10:40:51 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Rain-maker
Users should fix or tweak their OS's and quit griping about their lack of computer skills

IOW Windows is broken out of the box.

Apple works out of the box.
Linux works out of the box.
EcomStation/Server works out of the box.
Windows still crashes after you download the 10 patches waiting to be downloaded.

In my experience, those that have no problems with windows 1) think regular os crashes are normal, 2) use it for little more than e-mail, and 3) think Rush Limbaugh is a computer guru.

25 posted on 09/11/2003 10:58:46 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
I have no probs, and use memory intensive graphical programs 14 hours per day.
You obviously don't have any concept of 98Lite or XPlite.

Get a clue of who: http://www.datadoctors.com

Now be a good stereotyping schmuck by listening to Hannity for puter tips and ctrl-alt-del your way thru life.
26 posted on 09/11/2003 12:37:22 PM PDT by Rain-maker
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To: smith288
Hundreds or even thousands of applications would need converted... Hardly a justifiable cost.

Don't forget to add in the costs your now incurring in testing patches, doing critical updates, and rolling all this out.

I would imagine Slammer and the IE patch cost a pretty penny. If you're using SQL Server, you have a whole nest of security costs.

Sure there's security with any OS, but MS leads the pack by a very large amount.

27 posted on 09/11/2003 1:23:33 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Gee Wally
Isn't Microsoft pushing for those apps to be written/rewritten in .NET anyway? So how is it an added cost if Microsoft is pushing for migration to its .NET paradigm?

Because you won't HAVE to rewite 'em to have 'em run on Windows 2010 (or whatever). If you want 'em on Linux, you betcha they've gotta be rewritten. Not a difficult concept. We're talkin' desktop apps here.

28 posted on 09/11/2003 2:17:49 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
"Because you won't HAVE to rewite 'em to have 'em run on Windows 2010 (or whatever). If you want 'em on Linux, you betcha they've gotta be rewritten. Not a difficult concept. We're talkin' desktop apps here. "

Yes a difficult concept. I think you are a bit ignorant of where Microsoft and RIAA are taking you. The new file system in Longhorn is encrypted, look up DRM. Already, Exchange Server and a lot of other products are not forward compatible. Office 2003 requires 2003 server for full implementation. Backward compatibility is no longer guaranteed - the same way DOS was moved aside.

29 posted on 09/11/2003 2:33:27 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
Yes a difficult concept. I think you are a bit ignorant of where Microsoft and RIAA are taking you.

Well, since I'm running Longhorn Alpha on my test box, I'd beg to differ.

The new file system in Longhorn is encrypted, look up DRM. Already, Exchange Server and a lot of other products are not forward compatible. Office 2003 requires 2003 server for full implementation. Backward compatibility is no longer guaranteed - the same way DOS was moved aside.

Explain exactly how this prevents me from running a legacy Win98 app for example.

30 posted on 09/11/2003 2:50:12 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: FastCoyote
Oh, and re: DOS being moved aside, you can still run many DOS programs on XP. Some of my customers do just that.
31 posted on 09/11/2003 3:04:38 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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