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A New Breed of Men is Redefining Masculinity
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 9 September 2003 | Kristin Dizon

Posted on 09/09/2003 1:15:51 PM PDT by Publius

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To: Pest
LOL! Well, I have to admit my last cut was out of town, and I went to one of those lady barber joints. It was a good cut, and I admit that I enjoyed having the shampoo afterwards... I hate the little clippings that slide down the collar.

I didn't like what I had to pay for it though. Once was OK, but every two weeks??? Ouch.

21 posted on 09/09/2003 1:32:29 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski
Once a month at Supercuts is enough for me.
22 posted on 09/09/2003 1:33:16 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius
great to know that "masculinity" is one of those living, breathing concepts...
23 posted on 09/09/2003 1:34:17 PM PDT by kallisti
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To: DoughtyOne
Now, if I just had a pint of horse sweat to wash this down with. Nothing else would be quite as fitting.

I should have added that I used to be a pretty decent horseman a decade ago.

24 posted on 09/09/2003 1:34:25 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Huck
Exactly! You are among friends, my brother! I wonder when the last time one of these poofer wannabes got their hands dirty someplace other than a kitchen.

Hat-Trick

25 posted on 09/09/2003 1:34:43 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Proudly NOT wearing a tie to church this weekend, nor seeking the approval of men)
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To: Tax-chick
If I'm widowed, the Horde and I will look you up.

Yikes, I just reread your post. Seven kids? Uh, I forgot I had something else I was going to do if I was ever widowed or divorced... I'll have to get back to you...

26 posted on 09/09/2003 1:34:44 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Tax-chick
As a woman, the thing I find most unattractive about the metrosexual "style" is men spending all that time and money on clothes and personal grooming.

I agree. It's one thing to be stylishly dressed, it's another to spend 2 hrs staring at yourself in the mirror. My husband uses American Crew hair products, but that's only because I pick them up where I get my hair products and it's easier then running all over for shampoo. Even though he uses salon products he's still ready to go in about a quarter of the time I am.

BTW, I can't even imagine him at a day spa getting a "sports manicure and pedicure"!! LOL! I think he'd have to kick his own butt!

27 posted on 09/09/2003 1:35:18 PM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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To: caisson71
I would not marry a man that shaves, does his fingernails and wears underwear anyway! He should not be more manicured and coiffed than me.
28 posted on 09/09/2003 1:35:22 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: Publius
Ok. All any real man needs is this:

AND, this:

Having a killer hair cut and some cool threads are just a bonus.

29 posted on 09/09/2003 1:35:47 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: Publius
I know plenty of Italian guys whose idea of fashion is a NY Giants jersey, a pair of jeans and hightops - and they can still cook a masterful meal and love opera.

What's disgusting about the sissies in this article is not that they sometimes "accessorize" themselves with culture, but that they have a narcissistic obsession with personal grooming.

I bathe every day with only soap and water. I buy my button-down oxfords off the rack. I get a $10 haircut (quite an achievement in the NJ/NY/CT Tristate area). I clip my own nails with a $2 clipper from RiteAid. I would rather go target shooting than shopping. You'll find me at my Weber grill on a Saturday night instead of a downtown dance club.

I also love Mozart and Bach, I like to read Aquinas (in Latin) and Shakespeare in my spare time, I can make real gravy, and I can tell a good wine from a bad one.

I have more "culture" in my little finger than all these candyasses combined, and I don't have to primp myself like a faggot to have it.

30 posted on 09/09/2003 1:36:16 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Publius
"It's good for guys to know that it's OK to moisturize. It's not going to make you less masculine."

Wanna bet?

31 posted on 09/09/2003 1:36:35 PM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: Hat-Trick
Did you catch that "guy" talking about his mini-vacation to get a facial? I could make a "facial" joke, but this is a respectable forum so I will refrain. Hell, my lovely wife is more of a man than these twisted little homo-lites.
32 posted on 09/09/2003 1:37:28 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Publius
Actually, those comments weren't directed at your comments, just the article.
33 posted on 09/09/2003 1:37:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Publius
I see young heterosexual male trends over the past decade (like the huge growth of body building and tattoos) as a backlash to the cultural feminization of men. Look at gangsta rap and hip hop, urban "music" making a profane religion of belittling the feminine and challenging its young male listeners to be MEN in the most belligerent "bitch-slapping" women-hating ways they can conjure.

In Hollywood now, "fight choreographers" have replaced screen writers as the most important contributors to many films, this because most Hollywood movies these days are aimed at a 17 year-old audience, and these kids aren't going to spend $19 on movie tickets for themselves and a date to see Mr. Rogers and beautiful days in the neighborhood. Not a chance. They pay to see to see MEN! MEN kicking the shit out of one another. Blood and guts is what they want for their twenty bucks. Blood and guts.
34 posted on 09/09/2003 1:38:13 PM PDT by RangerHobbit (I ar a publik skool gradgeet an im not stoopit)
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To: cyborg
I would not marry a man that shaves, does his fingernails and wears underwear anyway! He should not be more manicured and coiffed than me.

LOL! Are you sure you don't want to clarify your statement? Because I'm having visions of a hairy armpitted, gorilla-legged chick.

35 posted on 09/09/2003 1:39:01 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: Tax-chick
Just about every "regular guy" has some interests or tastes that these people are defining as "gay-like."

That has always frosted my chops. Every summer at the chamber music festival I sit next to a gay "married couple" -- a writer and a sculptor. They know almost as much about chamber music as I do, and I can have knowledgeable conversations with them about the subject. Now I'm being labeled as "ahem -- gay" because I'm always discussing the performances with them and their friends. It's annoying.

But I agree with you that all this primping is decadent.

36 posted on 09/09/2003 1:40:26 PM PDT by Publius
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To: jpl
Veed, the deoderant advertised to last 3-days in France:)!
37 posted on 09/09/2003 1:40:36 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Honcho Bongs
"It's good for guys to know that it's OK to moisturize. It's not going to make you less masculine."

If any man ever approaches me with a bottle of "moisturizer", he'd better be armed.

Hat-Trick

38 posted on 09/09/2003 1:41:06 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Proudly NOT wearing a tie to church this weekend, nor seeking the approval of men)
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To: Publius
Once a month at Supercuts is enough for me.

Man, you're lucky. Us guys who are dripping with testosterone can't wait that long between haircuts.

I think we should be entitled to some kind of government handout to help us with our haircut expenses.

Teehee, just joking.

39 posted on 09/09/2003 1:41:27 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: RangerHobbit
I see young heterosexual male trends over the past decade (like the huge growth of body building and tattoos) as a backlash to the cultural feminization of men. Look at gangsta rap and hip hop, urban "music" making a profane religion of belittling the feminine and challenging its young male listeners to be MEN in the most belligerent "bitch-slapping" women-hating ways they can conjure.

It also explains the market that Robert Bly had for a few years.

40 posted on 09/09/2003 1:41:43 PM PDT by Poohbah (Hee Haw was supposed to be a television show...not the basis of a political movement...)
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