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A New Breed of Men is Redefining Masculinity
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 9 September 2003 | Kristin Dizon

Posted on 09/09/2003 1:15:51 PM PDT by Publius

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To: Huck
What do the Madison Ave. homos think of that?

You got it exactly. I'm certain that MadAve types love this sort of guy, no doubt they dump huge amounts of money on crap that they can't even sell at a garage sale!

121 posted on 09/09/2003 3:24:33 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: SamAdams76
There's nothing “metrosexual” about Yours Truly. I do buy designer clothes, but that's because designer clothes are better made, better fitting, and last longer than el cheapo department store clothes. Here are some tips for those unclear on the concept.

I stick with the Preppie look; one can't go wrong by wearing the same clothes your granddad wore. The secret is to concentrate on classic American looks, natural fibers and materials, top-quality stitching, and lots of woodsy plaids and country-club pinstripes. Silkscreened T-shirts, polyester garments, flared pants, and other trendy swish-of-the moment styles are for teenagers and the Queer Eye patrol. One should always dress appropriately for one's age; nothing's more embarassing than seeing a grown man who ought to know better slouching around in public in kids' clothes.

Buying clothes isn't difficult if one follows a few simple rules.

First rule: you get what you pay for. Although not all expensive clothes are quality clothes, all quality clothing is going to be somewhat more expensive than clothing of lesser quality due to differences in materials and workmanship. Over time, a thifty man will develop a feel for which labels represent a good quality/value balance and which are overpriced junk; the idea is to buy the best clothing available at less-than-retail prices. (A good rule of thumb is “Think Yiddish, Dress British”.) In my own experience, I've found that good-quality clothing can be had from Ralph Lauren (i.e. Polo), L.L. Bean, Réne Lacoste (the “alligator shirt” people -- no longer affiliated with Izod, by the way), Burberry, Brooks Bros.,Harrod's, and the Neiman-Marcus' Men's Shop, among others. These are all reliable sources of classic, masculine apparel.

Rule Two: Shop by internet or mail-order catalog whenever possible. Most stores that carry men's furnishings are located in malls or similar environs and will almost certainly be full of slack-jawed yokels, gum-snapping/hair-tossing teenage girls, guys with their pants around their knees, and clucking mother hens. These nightmarish situations are to be avoided at all costs. If you must buy from a physical store, avoid endlessly preening in front of mirrors or stripping to your skivvies in dubious dressing rooms; instead, know your sizes (write them down!), go straight to what you want, buy the items with a minimum of fuss, and try the garments on at home. If an individual garment doesn't fit, look, or feel right, take or ship it back and exchange it.

Rule Three: Dress Yourself. It is your duty as a man to know which clothes are appropriate for your age, body type, and pattern of activity. Feel free to accept advice from the shopkeeper and/or your wife, but allow no one to decide for you what you will wear; you're a big boy.

Rule Four: Steer Clear of Trendy/Casual Crap. At all costs avoid the “fashion” sections of department stores and trendy joints like Structure, The Gap, Banana Republic, and other mall-type retailers -- all they sell is cheap crap, lo-ryder gang pants, homo-riffic club clothing, and other junk fit only for teenagers and degenerates. One should also avoid “workin’-class” stores like Wal-Mart and other discount chains -- their clothes are almost always shoddy, ill-fitting imported junk meant for the Trailer Park / NASCAR set. (No offense to manufactured-housing residents or stock car racing fans.) If one needs cheap everyday-type clothing, the Army-Navy store is an excellent source of quality goods -- especially for winter clothes, work clothes, and hats. Goodwill and Salvation army thrift stores, yard sales, and rummage sales are also good places to look for good clothing at unbelieveable prices -- a bit of careful shopping can net you great deals, like the pair of London Fog trenchcoats (retail price: $60-$100 each!) my wife found for me at a church jumble sale for $2 apiece.

Rule Five: Remember Your Head and Feet. Want to look like Michael Moore? Wear the same grubby sneakers, wrinkled chinos, rumpled plaid flannel work shirts, mustard/kraut-stained logo t-shirts, and Cubs ballcap as he does and you will. (Forget to shave or shave badly to complete the picture.) Want to look like '60s-era Sean Connery? Wear shoes and hats that are clean and are appropriate for your age and the clothes you're wearing them with. The point? Your top and bottom extremeties need clothing too; all the quality threads in the world won't do one a bit of good if one wears the wrong hat and shoes with them. (Tennis shoes are for the gym; wear leather shoes for everyday use, boots for yardwork, and dress shoes with a suit. Never wear oxfords, brogues or other lace-up dress shoes with white or black tie; patent leather opera pumps are the only correct shoes with a tuxedo.) In short: a real man wears the correct shoes and hat for the occasion. (And never wears a foam hat, a tam o'shanter, or a backwards baseball cap.)

Good clothes and good grooming are a natural part of the life of a gentleman, but there's a world of difference between a well-dressed, well-groomed man and what in German might be called ein parfumetier Schwöller (a “perfumed pansy”). A Real Man wants to dress handsomely and appropriately for his age, station, and activity, but never seeks to be “on display” or otherwise “fabulous”.

Screw metrosexuality, foppishness, and dandyism. The 1955 Highland Park Texas look (i.e. classic Ivy League prep) is handsome and manly and won't look stupid a decade from now. The secret of looking good is not to follow fashion but to stay neat, clean, and buy the best-made, best-fitting, most conservative clothes you can at the lowest price available.

122 posted on 09/09/2003 3:34:45 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Publius
I believe a few hundred years ago, these same men were called fops and dandies. Think Louis XIV's court with the long curly wig and the fake heart shaped mole.
The NYT just needed to give a new name to an old type of man.
Frasier and Niles came to mind when I read it, actually.
But there is nothing new under the sun. I am sure King David had some really stylish men in his court too.
123 posted on 09/09/2003 3:39:57 PM PDT by TheLionessRN
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To: Noumenon
...hear the lamentations of the metrosexuals.

"You beatht! Oh damn, now I've broken a nail..."

124 posted on 09/09/2003 3:45:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: B-Chan
Actually, I have heard almost all my life that the shoes make the outfit.
125 posted on 09/09/2003 3:48:10 PM PDT by TheLionessRN
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To: Publius
Yes, but do you get your eyebrows waxed?
126 posted on 09/09/2003 3:49:14 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (...they led my people astray, saying, "Peace!" when there was no peace -- Ezekiel 13:10)
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Do they play with guns or dress their"Barbie"?

Obviously their barbies. These poor guys most likely had soccer moms listening to feminists tell them to buy their sons feminine toys ---- they're confused --- half gay.

127 posted on 09/09/2003 3:53:11 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: B-Chan
Rule Three: Dress Yourself. It is your duty as a man to know which clothes are appropriate for your age, body type, and pattern of activity. Feel free to accept advice from the shopkeeper and/or your wife, but allow no one to decide for you what you will wear; you're a big boy.

You mean you don't have a magical closet? I have a magical closet. Old clothes vanish into the void, and new clothes appear. Every man should be so lucky.

Rule Five: Remember Your Head and Feet. Want to look like Michael Moore? Wear the same grubby sneakers, wrinkled chinos, rumpled plaid flannel work shirts, mustard/kraut-stained logo t-shirts, and Cubs ballcap as he does and you will. (Forget to shave or shave badly to complete the picture.) Want to look like '60s-era Sean Connery? Wear shoes and hats that are clean and are appropriate for your age and the clothes you're wearing them with. The point? Your top and bottom extremeties need clothing too; all the quality threads in the world won't do one a bit of good if one wears the wrong hat and shoes with them. (Tennis shoes are for the gym; wear leather shoes for everyday use, boots for yardwork, and dress shoes with a suit. Never wear oxfords, brogues or other lace-up dress shoes with white or black tie; patent leather opera pumps are the only correct shoes with a tuxedo.) In short: a real man wears the correct shoes and hat for the occasion. (And never wears a foam hat, a tam o'shanter, or a backwards baseball cap.)

Absolutely. Head and feet are important. Engineer boots should be worn for everyday activities. Steel toe is preferable, but if you're not very active, or ride a moped, soft-toe is ok. White Reeboks are ok at the gym AS LONG as the other guys see you put your boots in the locker. Under no circumstances are pumps acceptable.

I won't be caught dead without a do-rag. Flames for casual BBQ's, solid colors for nights out on the town and leather for formal wear. Occassionaly a skull cap or speed sock can used in lieu of a do-rag, but trendiness comes with a price and RUB's are pansies. The best thing about the do-rag is that the pump wearing pansy knows you're going to beat the **** out of him if he complains.

As soon as we solve your pump problem, I'll help you understand when it's proper to wear a chain belt (At club when you can't carry a gun or a knife), and which hand to hold the belt in, and which hand to hold the knife.

Lol, now watch someone take this too seriously.

128 posted on 09/09/2003 3:54:40 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Billthedrill
Punch one of those bluezone girlymen in the nose, and they'll sit down hard and call for their mommies and their lawyers in that order.
129 posted on 09/09/2003 4:08:41 PM PDT by Noumenon (Those who seek the destruction of a free society are unfit to live in that same society.)
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To: B-Chan
Good advice and a good post. I especially agree with your advice about shopping online and avoiding malls altogether. They are exactly how you describe them!

One of the greatest benefits of my weight loss program this year is that I can now buy normal looking clothes and not that overpriced and atrocious looking junk from the Big & Tall shops that I was forced to frequent before. When you go from a size 50 waist to a size 36, your options multiply tremendously. I happily threw all my old clothes away during the summer and once I get to my target size (34), I'm buying all good quality stuff. In fact, I'm heading to L.L. Bean online to get some of my fall clothing shortly.

130 posted on 09/09/2003 4:18:52 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 224.2 (-75.8))
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To: Publius
likely enjoys premium shopping, stylish fashion and good grooming. Comfortable with himself, he's neither effeminate nor wimpy.

Only if the shopping is for guns, and the stylish stuff is camo.

enjoys monthly trips to Ummelina International Day Spa downtown for a manicure, massage, facial or brow waxing

A facial? Brow waxing? WTF?

Every 2 1/2 weeks, Ima spends $60, before tip, on a haircut.

That's nice. I pay about 1/6 that. Does the job just fine for me.

His fiancee, Lana Juric, says sometimes he takes longer to get ready than she does. His clothes take up more closet space than hers.

I think Jonny here may be batting for the other team, regardless of what is said.

In a survey of 510 male respondents by Euro RSCG, 49 percent said there's nothing wrong with a facial or a manicure.

That's Euro....not here.

Linda Green, director of the company's nail department, says men are paying more attention to looks and grooming because presentation matters in the business world.

I don't have to turn into a "Lyle"(Saturday Night Live) to be presentable.

Metrosexuals can be an is-he-or-isn't-he? mystery for gay men

Now that's a suprise.../sarcasm

He spends as much time in front of the mirror and is as into name brands and fancy clothes as I am."

That's just wrong. ROFL.

131 posted on 09/09/2003 4:19:31 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Our party will never be the choice of the NRA" - John F. Kerry, who looks French)
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To: Melas
“Do-Rag”? “Chain belt?” Not my look. Besides, up against a guy in a pair of opera pumps with a gun under his tuxedo jacket, neither's going to be of much use.

See? Not taken seriously at all!

132 posted on 09/09/2003 4:21:09 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Publius
"he's neither effeminate nor wimpy"

Why would anyone think a guy with gelled and styled hair, the latest fruity printed fashions (some in pastels), 250 pairs of shoes, a manicure and a preoccupation with his butt as effeminate? < /sarcasm >

133 posted on 09/09/2003 4:25:20 PM PDT by gnarledmaw
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To: Publius
"Take Jon Ima, 31, of Seattle. He'd never heard the term and he's unlikely to use it, but he fits the trend. Ima, a real estate developer, enjoys monthly trips to Ummelina International Day Spa downtown for a manicure, massage, facial or brow waxing. "

What a Mary.

134 posted on 09/09/2003 4:25:59 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: RangerHobbit
>>"I knew things had gone to hell when a University of Arizona professor in another web forum told us of the baby he and his wife just had, and of his remorse that he couldn't lactate too in order to take some of the breast-feeding burden off of his wife."<<


EEEEEUUUUUWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! Gag me!!
135 posted on 09/09/2003 4:36:12 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (HERE'S AN INTERESTING IDEA FOR YOU MEN: I'll be the woman, you be the man!!)
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To: Publius
Harrison Ford

Sorry. He's friends with liberals and child rapists, so he's off my list.

136 posted on 09/09/2003 4:41:09 PM PDT by Maigrey (Keepin' Tags and lots o' Hugs for Sara Grace and Logan)
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To: RangerHobbit
I knew things had gone to hell when a University of Arizona professor in another web forum told us of the baby he and his wife just had, and of his remorse that he couldn't lactate too in order to take some of the breast-feeding burden off of his wife.

WTF? That prof must bat for the other team.

137 posted on 09/09/2003 4:41:12 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Our party will never be the choice of the NRA" - John F. Kerry, who looks French)
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To: ido_now
Mel Gibson, and other than the oldies many of whom are dead or dying like Bronson, the others are .......?

Ellen DeGeneres, Rosie ODonnell .....

138 posted on 09/09/2003 4:41:35 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: cyborg
#28, LOL!

With folks here making contingency arrangements, I guess Ill put my ballot in your hat. This is assuming, obviously, that you know how to clean a female sturgeon, butcher a deer, and well, maybe a few other things. You dont by chance have your own boat do you?

139 posted on 09/09/2003 4:42:24 PM PDT by gnarledmaw
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To: jellybean
>>"I'm starting a Retro-sexual movement: Women who like men with good grooming habits, but they don't spend hours primping in front of a mirror. They don't wear expensive suits to mow the lawn or take out the trash. As long as their clothes are neat, clean and fit well, I would find that sexy. It's nice if a man knows how to cook, but I can cook.

Seems to me these women who want their men sissified are looking for a girlfriend, not a husband."<<


I'm with you, kiddo!! Sign me up!
140 posted on 09/09/2003 4:44:54 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (HERE'S AN INTERESTING IDEA FOR YOU MEN: I'll be the woman, you be the man!!)
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