To: babygene
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; ...Her use was clearly nonprofit, and to a kid, educational
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work; ...work that is given away free on the radio
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and ...not downloading the whole work, just one song of an arangement
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. ...Since she would probably not be in a position to buy it, she did not effect the market
1. Sorry, the educational argument doesn't work. Entertainment is a commercial -- not educational -- activity, and whether or not the kid was running a profit enterprise is not the question.
2. The fact that music is broadcast on the radio does not mean it is "given away for free". Sorry, try again.
3. Each song IS a "work". A CD is a compilation of works. To qualify under this standard, the files downloaded would have to consist of mere snippets or a couple of lines from a song -- not the whole song. Nice try, but that dog won't hunt.
4. To suggest she did not affect the market is like suggesting that a shoplifter who just steals one pair of jeans doesn't affect the market. Sorry, but again the argument fails.
To: VRWCmember
" 1. Sorry, the educational argument doesn't work. Entertainment is a commercial -- not educational -- activity, and whether or not the kid was running a profit enterprise is not the question.
2. The fact that music is broadcast on the radio does not mean it is "given away for free". Sorry, try again.
3. Each song IS a "work". A CD is a compilation of works. To qualify under this standard, the files downloaded would have to consist of mere snippets or a couple of lines from a song -- not the whole song. Nice try, but that dog won't hunt.
4. To suggest she did not affect the market is like suggesting that a shoplifter who just steals one pair of jeans doesn't affect the market. Sorry, but again the
argument fails."
So you have your view, same as the recording industry...
I am representing another possible view. It is my understanding that the USSC has not ruled on this yet, so neither view is cast in stone.
Let me ask you this. It's a little off topic, but not much.
Why are copy machines allowed in libraries? How many times have you and I and everyone else copied a page out of a book or magazine rather than buy a copy of it?
Its the same copyright law
The library even SELLS photocopies for 10 or 20 cents a page.
70 posted on
09/09/2003 9:49:45 AM PDT by
babygene
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