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Leni Riefenstahl dies at 101; Known for Nazi Era Propoganda Films
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Posted on 09/09/2003 4:06:46 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

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To: Dirk McQuickly
The Nazi's weren't fascists. Fascism was a dictatorship, not a totalitarian police state like Stalin's Russia, and Germany.
21 posted on 09/09/2003 6:45:32 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Moose4
Way to apologize for evil.

Leni could have fled like most of the creative classes did. She loved Germany- even Nazi Germany. So she did her best work for the fatherland, and throughout her post war career she maintained she was justr an innocent artist, maybe just a bit naive.

I'm not buying those crocadile tears for a minute. The woman was pure evil.
22 posted on 09/09/2003 6:48:36 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: veronica
Her big act of contrition was to become an eco-filmaker and swim with the porpoises and share in the brotherhood of all living sea creatures.She went from one extreme to the other, a trademark of a zealot or someone with no moral center.Her talent was extraordinary, but as Orwell used to say about Dali, what a revolting person!
23 posted on 09/09/2003 6:48:48 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: CatoRenasci
Soviet Film director Sergei Eisenstein's work is praised because American "intellectuals" gave the Soviets a pass. No one discusses the Soviet genocide of hundreds of millions. This set of blinders persists: Nazism was almost identical to Stalinism.

24 posted on 09/09/2003 6:54:04 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Some left Nazi Germany and used their talent elsewhere...

And some, had they not left Germany, would have been murdered, gassed. Like Billy Wilder, one of the greatest film directors of all time.

Leni Riefenstahl's "talent" doesn't even begin to approach the talent of Billy Wilder, whose accomplishments are even more to be admired, when one considers that his family perished in the death camps, thanks to Riefenstahl's "mentor", Hitler.

25 posted on 09/09/2003 7:05:09 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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To: ffusco
Obviously. His work is great, however. Just as Riefenstahl's is great.
26 posted on 09/09/2003 7:05:11 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: ffusco
You're quick to condemn, but seem rather short on the knowledged upon which to base judgement. It sounds to me like you have little understanding of the various totalitarian regimes of the thirties, or the history of fascism. You should really read Ernst Nolte's The Three Faces of Fascism as well as Alan Bullock's Hitler and his Hitler and Stalin.
27 posted on 09/09/2003 7:10:55 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: CatoRenasci
I studied filmmaking in college. Leni Riefenstahl does not play much of a role in the history of movies. She's mentioned, mostly because she was female. A footnote, not a major player.
28 posted on 09/09/2003 7:12:17 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Roast in hell, Leni.
29 posted on 09/09/2003 7:13:10 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons - defined as the French generals of the political world)
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To: CatoRenasci
Excellent summary. I agree with you.
30 posted on 09/09/2003 7:21:02 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Skooz
I honestly saw such a review. Of course, it did paint Clinton in a rather Hitlerian light...
31 posted on 09/09/2003 7:24:44 AM PDT by Junior (Killed a six pack ... just to watch it die.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Roast in hell, Leni.

Great post!! :))

32 posted on 09/09/2003 7:27:26 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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To: CatoRenasci
I know enough about fascism, my family having lived in Italy during the war. Fascism is now a catch-all phrase for anything we don't agree with.

33 posted on 09/09/2003 7:29:07 AM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: FreeAtlanta
In terms of movie direction and editing Moore cannot come close to Leni.
34 posted on 09/09/2003 7:30:09 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Wow, that was a well thought out post. </sarcasm>
35 posted on 09/09/2003 7:32:28 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: jjm2111
Anything wrong with the notion?
36 posted on 09/09/2003 7:39:16 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Paleocons - defined as the French generals of the political world)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yes. Who knows what was in her heart or her beliefs and who know where her soul ended up? Unless, you knew her personally.

37 posted on 09/09/2003 7:42:50 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Let's not forget the great Film Director Fritz Lang, who turned down a job offer from Goebbels himself and fled to America.
38 posted on 09/09/2003 7:57:21 AM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Cacique
Ping!
39 posted on 09/09/2003 7:58:17 AM PDT by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
In recent years, Leni was also a very outspoken Green Party activist. Figures.
40 posted on 09/09/2003 8:01:38 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???)
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