CA: Potentially unreliable polls play a key role in recall race

FResno Bee ^ | 9/8/03 | Tom Chorneau - AP

[NormsRevenge]

SACRAMENTO -- California's unprecedented recall election, with its stew of 135 candidates, has created what analysts call a greater-than-usual reliance on political polling.

In just one month, candidates have cited polls as the reason for entering the race, dropping out or asking their opponents to drop out.

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This is pretty funny!

Polls are troublesome when they don't show our guy ahead.

Could have been written by a freeper!

[NormsRevenge]

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[goldstategop]

The financial markets all have Large Breasts ahead at the moment. But if he self destructs we could still wind up with GOP Governor. California is a funny place.

[Steely Tom]

California is a funny place.

I know. If I think about it too much, I laugh till I cry.

(steely)

[South40]

I can't imagine why the SacBee chose to omit any mention of this poll, unless, of course, they have an agenda.

[South40]

Correction: Make that FresBee.

[babble-on]

more work, more expense," said Richard Hertz

[Thud]

Yup, telemarketing has made phone polling much less reliable and more expensive. The only reliable polls these days are really expensive and so tend to be private ones for candidates. Additionally the polls published by some of the news media reflect the agendas of the media which commissioned them, and so are worthless.

Eventually the pollsters may come up with a new methodology but until then experienced gut instincts will be at least as reliable as most publically available polls.

BTW, my Democratic wife got a call from a pollster the day after the recall qualification was announced. The pollster pitched various combinations of candidates at her as Bustamente hadn't set the election date yet.

My wife insisted on answering the questions honestly. I told her she missed a great opportunity to work 'em. She should have indignantly yelled, "I'm gonna vote for Camejo again!" She is pretty p'o'd about Indian gambling - she loathes gambling in general and equates it with organized crime. The Democrats seem to have lost her over this. I haven't gotten her to McClintock yet but she admits that McClintock and Ubberoth are the only emotionally mature adults in the race.

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Dick Hertz!

I'm getting Jayson Blair vibes...

[babble-on]

Seymour Butz, Claude Balls, and Haywood Jablomie could not be reahed for comment

[South40]

I've read that book. It was written by Willie Makeit and illustrated by Betty Wont.

[NormsRevenge]

agenda 8-? we don't have no stinkin' agenda... LOL

Polls are like diapers, no matter how much ya wring 'em out, there's always a little stink coming from them.

[Dog Gone]

In the Taco Bell poll, Arnold currently has 0%, and Cruz and Davis are tied at 9%.

[Common Tator]

"Look at the Bush-Gore election and how wildly the polls changed day to day," he said. "That's a presidential election, which is far less volatile than what is going on out in California with 135 candidates and everything else."

Many like to say that polls are not accurate. But there is every reason to believe internal campaign polls are very accurate.

Consider the following
In 2000 Al Gore Broke with tradition. He actuall campaigned on Election day. It had been always been a tradition that candidates do not campaign on election day. But Al Gore broke with that tradition. Al got up early on election day morning and flew to a state to campaign. It must have surely been a state essential to his win. A state close enough where last minute campaigning on election day might give him the victory? Where did Al go to Campaign? He went to Florida. That is what Al did.

And what happened on Electiion day when the Networks called Florida a win for Gore? Who called to tell them they were wrong. Whose polls told them that Florida was too close to call? That was George W. Bush.

Anyone who thinks internal campaign polls are inaccurate, does not have the brains to observe what candidates do based on the polls.

Media polls like Zogby are often Bull Crap. The polls done by campaigns are not.

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[SierraWasp]

You are so absolutely CORRECT!!!

Rush now calls it the "Zhombie Poll."

Sacramento's highest rated talk host is trying to start a Schwarzenegger stampede and to dishearten McClintock supporters by insisting that Tom must capitulate this week based on polling taken 8/23-8/25.

If Tom takes the Indian Gaming money it'll make it hard to hang in there with him, for me. I'm waiting for that to shake out and the next SurveyUSA.com poll to see what I think by that time. If Drudge has dirty dirt on Arnold, I'm thinking the Dems have tons of it and are backing up the media "dump truck!"

Where Arnold's concerned, I've got a deep-seated prejudice against most anything Pete Wilson touches!!! I'm not a conservative purist fanatic, but Wilson's appointment of Doug Wheeler to the CA resources agency and his getting his (Wilson's) wife appointed to the board of ARCO with it's dangerously poisonous gasoline additive to satisfy GANG-GREEN's Sierra Flub have really pist me off!!! (permanently)

[SierraWasp]

"The financial markets all have Large Breasts ahead at the moment."

Where'd ya git that?

[SierraWasp]

As Dana Carvey/The Church Lady would say: "Well! Isn't that special!!!"

[Dog Gone]

The Rats have either organized the most successful beef taco boycott in world history, or sumpin's wrong.