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A failed Israeli society is collapsing
The International Herald Tribune - first appeared in English in The Forward (New York), was adapted ^ | Saturday, September 6, 2003 | Avraham Burg

Posted on 09/08/2003 8:40:30 AM PDT by US admirer

A failed Israeli society is collapsing, The end of Zionism?

JERUSALEM The Zionist revolution has always rested on two pillars: a just path and an ethical leadership. Neither of these is operative any longer. The Israeli nation today rests on a scaffolding of corruption, and on foundations of oppression and injustice. As such, the end of the Zionist enterprise is already on our doorstep. There is a real chance that ours will be the last Zionist generation. There may yet be a Jewish state in the Middle East, but it will be a different sort, strange and ugly.

There is time to change course, but not much. What is needed is a new vision of a just society and the political will to implement it. Nor is this merely an internal Israeli affair. Diaspora Jews for whom Israel is a central pillar of their identity must pay heed and speak out. If the pillar collapses, the upper floors will come crashing down.

The Israeli opposition does not exist, and the coalition government, with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon at its head, claims the right to remain silent. In a nation of chatterboxes, everyone has suddenly fallen dumb, because there's nothing left to say. We live in a thunderously failed reality.

Yes, we Israelis have revived the Hebrew language, created a marvelous theater and a strong national currency. Our Jewish minds are as sharp as ever. We are traded on the Nasdaq. But is this why we created a state? The Jewish people did not survive for two millennia in order to pioneer new weaponry, computer security programs or antimissile missiles. We were supposed to be a light unto the nations. In this we have failed.

It turns out that the 2,000-year struggle for Jewish survival comes down to a state of settlements, run by an amoral clique of corrupt lawbreakers who are deaf both to their citizens and to their enemies. A state lacking justice cannot survive. More and more Israelis are coming to understand this as they ask their children where they expect to live in 25 years. Children who are honest admit, to their parents' shock, that they do not know. The countdown to the end of Israeli society has begun.

It is very comfortable to be a Zionist in West Bank settlements such as Beit El and Ofra. The biblical landscape is charming. From the window you can gaze through the geraniums and bougainvillea and not see the occupation. Traveling on the fast highway that takes you from Ramot on Jerusalem's northern edge to Gilo on the southern edge, a 12-minute trip just west of the Palestinian roadblocks, it's hard to comprehend the humiliating experience of the despised Arab who must creep for hours along the pocked, blockaded roads assigned to him. One road for the occupier, one road for the occupied.

This cannot work. Even if the Arabs lower their heads and swallow their shame and anger forever, it won't work. A structure built on human callousness will inevitably collapse in on itself. Note this moment well: Zionism's superstructure is already collapsing like a cheap Jerusalem wedding hall. Only madmen continue dancing on the top floor while the pillars below are collapsing.

Israel, having ceased to care about the children of the Palestinians, should not be surprised when they come washed in hatred and blow themselves up in the centers of Israeli escapism. They consign themselves to Allah in our places of recreation, because their own lives are torture. They spill their own blood in our restaurants in order to ruin our appetites, because they have children and parents at home who are hungry and humiliated.

We could kill a thousand ringleaders and engineers a day and nothing will be solved, because the leaders come up from below - from the wells of hatred and anger, from the "infrastructures" of injustice and moral corruption.

If all this were inevitable, divinely ordained and immutable, I would be silent. But things could be different, and so crying out is a moral imperative.

Here is what the prime minister should say to the people:

The time for illusions is over. The time for decisions has arrived. We love the entire land of our forefathers and in some other time we would have wanted to live here alone. But that will not happen. The Arabs, too, have dreams and needs.

Between the Jordan and the Mediterranean there is no longer a clear Jewish majority. And so, fellow citizens, it is not possible to keep the whole thing without paying a price. We cannot keep a Palestinian majority under an Israeli boot and at the same time think ourselves the only democracy in the Middle East. There cannot be democracy without equal rights for all who live here, Arab as well as Jew. We cannot keep the territories and preserve a Jewish majority in the world's only Jewish state - not by means that are humane and moral and Jewish.

Do you want the greater Land of Israel? No problem. Abandon democracy. Let's institute an efficient system of racial separation here, with prison camps and detention villages. Qalqilya Ghetto and Gulag Jenin.

Do you want a Jewish majority? No problem. Either put the Arabs on railway cars, buses, camels and donkeys and expel them en masse - or separate ourselves from them absolutely, without tricks and gimmicks. There is no middle path. We must remove all the settlements - all of them - and draw an internationally recognized border between the Jewish national home and the Palestinian national home. The Jewish Law of Return will apply only within our national home, and their right of return will apply only within the borders of the Palestinian state.

Do you want democracy? No problem. Either abandon the greater Land of Israel, to the last settlement and outpost, or give full citizenship and voting rights to everyone, including Arabs. The result, of course, will be that those who did not want a Palestinian state alongside us will have one in our midst, via the ballot box.

That's what the prime minister should say to the people. He should present the choices forthrightly: Jewish racism or democracy. Settlements or hope for both peoples. False visions of barbed wire, roadblocks and suicide bombers, or a recognized international border between two states and a shared capital in Jerusalem.

But there is no prime minister in Jerusalem. The disease eating away at the body of Zionism has already attacked the head. David Ben-Gurion sometimes erred, but he remained straight as an arrow. When Menachem Begin was wrong, nobody impugned his motives. No longer. Polls published two weeks ago showed that a majority of Israelis do not believe in the personal integrity of the prime minister - yet they trust his political leadership. In other words, Israel's current prime minister personally embodies both halves of the curse: suspect personal morals and open disregard for the law - combined with the brutality of occupation and the trampling of any chance for peace. This is our nation, these its leaders. The inescapable conclusion is that the Zionist revolution is dead.

Why, then, is the opposition so quiet? Perhaps because it's summer, or because they are tired, or because some would like to join the government at any price, even the price of participating in the sickness. But while they dither, the forces of good lose hope.

This is the time for clear alternatives. Anyone who declines to present a clear-cut position - black or white - is in effect collaborating in the decline. It is not a matter of Labor versus Likud or right versus left, but of right versus wrong, acceptable versus unacceptable. The law-abiding versus the lawbreakers. What is needed is not a political replacement for the Sharon government but a vision of hope, an alternative to the destruction of Zionism and its values by the deaf, dumb and callous.

Israel's friends abroad - Jewish and non-Jewish alike, presidents and prime ministers, rabbis and lay people - should choose as well. They must reach out and help Israel to navigate the road map toward our national destiny as a light unto the nations and a society of peace, justice and equality.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: avrahamburg; israel; palestinians; separation; sharon; zionism
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To: Alouette
Bravo, Alouette! If he can't suck it up and be man enough to admit his error after an online pimp-slapping as viciously thorough as all of that: he's either insane, or else stands revealed, before one and all, as...

... well. Let's just say "stands revealed before one and all," and simply leave it at that, shall we...? :)

81 posted on 09/08/2003 7:05:02 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: Alouette
What a crock! This is your proof? A polemicist from the right with an ax to grind? Where is the "falsification of data" that you claimed? This is far from a proof of any manipulation of archival data--which would have indeed been scandalous--but just an argument from the right, complete with the usual complaints about "partial quotes" and "misrepresentations", etc., the usual stuff of any debate. You owe Morris an apology it seems to me.
82 posted on 09/08/2003 7:10:51 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
You people are sick. I cite the NYTimes and Benny Morris and you tell me to "go straight to the root source, and parrot your favorite passages from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, so long as you're up...?" In other words, when you get any kind of opposition, you haul out the charge of anti-semitism. And this is supposed to shed light on the subject? No thanks. You can stuff your phony arguments. This is my last post on the subject--go browbeat somebody else with your ravings.


83 posted on 09/08/2003 7:22:49 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
You are the people who don't hate? If you do this to me who you don't know--what do Israelis do to the Palestinians do you think? So all of you prove my point. There is plenty of hate to go around.
84 posted on 09/08/2003 7:28:06 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
"There is plenty of hate to go around."

This is not hate.
You don't deserve that much emotion.
On this forum, we eat Pro-Palis like you for breakfast.

85 posted on 09/08/2003 7:40:47 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: wideawake
There is a solution, but precisely because Israelis don't really hate Arabs they can't bring themselves to use the solution.

The solution is to drive all Arabs unwilling to be productive citizens of Israel over the border.
That solution is still more humane that the one the US meted out to Indians who were not willing to be productive members of US society.

Something tells me if Apache terrorists were blowing themselves up in American casinos and strip malls we'd adopt even harsher tactics than Israel has.
39 -wideawake-



Indian terrorists were raping & pillaging our frontier for two hundred years, and we were harsh...
But by & large we sent them back to their reservation concentration camps, --- where those who wanted to were free to walk away and join our society.

Many did exactly that, and I was fortunate enough to know some of them in my youth. Still do.. Fine people. Folks of amer-indian heritage are all around us, in every state.

Somehow, this gradual melding is not happening in Israel.

Why?

I would bet that it is because of the religious 'thing'. - On both sides -

- Soon, I can see the world shrugging its shoulders, and saying in effect; --

--- a pox on both your houses.  
86 posted on 09/08/2003 7:42:59 PM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
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To: LindaSOG
"Send the trespassing gypsies right back where they came from."

THANK YOU, LINDA!!


88 posted on 09/08/2003 8:01:15 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: US admirer
Yes, we Israelis have revived the Hebrew language, created a marvelous theater and a strong national currency.

I do not believe for one second that you are an an Israeli.You are a lying piece of crap.

I believe he makes much sense. I am posting this for the benefit of those who have not had the opportunity to consider his opinions rather than to argue the issue with those who disagree.

You have to be shitting me with this post. I see that there are many others on the thread who have posted before I got here.

I'll see you on the other side of this thread.

89 posted on 09/08/2003 8:08:56 PM PDT by Radix
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To: US admirer
As the United States works to bring calm to the region, it needs Israeli and Palestinian leaders to support a dialogue of peace not one of hatred.

Gosh, what will they do without the effing bombs?

You have to love those peace loving so-called Palestinians.

90 posted on 09/08/2003 8:22:00 PM PDT by Radix
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To: SJackson
You are messing with all of our bandwidth when you waste comments on those reprobates.

They are without honor.
91 posted on 09/08/2003 8:27:06 PM PDT by Radix
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To: TopQuark
This moron should speak for himself. I am a Jew, and Israel is NOT a pillar of my identity. Surely, Israel is very important to me --- as a hope that my almost continually endangered people will survive. Israel is important to me because it is comprised of so many survivors of the Holocaust, in which a large part of my own family has perished as well. But Israel is not a "pillar of my identity."

Your own post says more about you than I ever could.

92 posted on 09/08/2003 8:30:49 PM PDT by Radix
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
If you have a ping list, please put me on it.
93 posted on 09/08/2003 8:33:07 PM PDT by Radix
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To: ultima ratio
Jews hate Palestinians--though they don't advertise their hate the way Arabs do..

Have you always been a homosexual?

94 posted on 09/08/2003 8:35:58 PM PDT by Radix (Yes, I really meant to say " kiss my ass.")
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To: Radix
THANK YOU, RADIX!


95 posted on 09/08/2003 8:38:14 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: ultima ratio
You people are sick. I cite the NYTimes and Benny Morris

Benny himself has repudiated his own work and the NY Slimes has been caught red-handed publishing made up lies as "news." You are incredibly dense not to know this.

This is my last post on the subject

Don't let the door hitcha where the good Lord splitcha

96 posted on 09/08/2003 8:38:44 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: ultima ratio
You people are sick. I cite the NYTimes and Benny Morris

The former [the Times] is a source so thoroughly discredited (and so virulently, unabashedly liberal) that no conservative of principal ever sites it as a primary source for anything more controversial than the previous day's baseball scores. And the latte has, as you are now doubtless aware, been revealed to be an agenda-driven fraud.

In other words: you've "cited" nothing of interest, or of worth; certainly nothing to advance your argument, or rebut those of anyone else.

Let the record show that -- after having been asked three separate times, in succession, to respond credibly to even one of the Arab sources repeatedly cited, throughout -- you have studiously avoided venturing near even so much as any one of them... much less the trio entire.

Not one cogent rebuttal of ANY of the three. Not one charge countered; not one argument contra yours even momentarily jiggled, much less toppled outright.

This is my last post on the subject

A wise decision, certainly. It'll give you time to actually read up on the topic, so that you might (eventually) discuss it more credibly.

As opposed to stamping your feet and flouncing out of the room, I mean.

97 posted on 09/08/2003 8:39:13 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: ultima ratio
Israel is not free of blame in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Deal with it. It's the truth. The attempt to connect this conflict to 9/11 is a stretch

Please go away.

98 posted on 09/08/2003 8:42:38 PM PDT by Radix (Go suck off fat Teddy or JF Kerry, or some other reprobate lying scumbag.)
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To: Radix; Alouette; TexasCowboy
:) I don't, I'm afraid... but: if there are any staunchly pro-Israel "ping" lists hereabouts, and anyone here would be so generous and kind as to place me onto theirs, I'd be eternally obliged. :)
99 posted on 09/08/2003 8:43:50 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: Alouette
"Don't let the door hitcha where the good Lord splitcha"

Oh, hell!
Another keyboard bites the dust!!!!!

100 posted on 09/08/2003 8:49:19 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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