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1 posted on 09/08/2003 8:11:23 AM PDT by StarCMC
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To: Damocles
ping
2 posted on 09/08/2003 8:12:06 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: StarCMC
So, is HSLDA an organization that shouldn't be trusted?
3 posted on 09/08/2003 8:15:29 AM PDT by Nephi (Compassionate conservativism: Sure it's socialism, but what are you gonna do, vote for Nikita Dean?)
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To: 2Jedismom
What's your take on this?
5 posted on 09/08/2003 8:24:18 AM PDT by ibheath (Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
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To: StarCMC
Ooooh--I am glad we've not joined up yet. This changes things. I don't want the government to give us stuff just because we educate at home. Federal oversight is not going to help!

We don't believe that standardized tests are worth much, I don't expect a tax break for schooling at home (costs me about $50/year, so wooo big break if it's for actual expenses!), and I'll work with individual colleges as needed, thanks.

This seems to go hand in hand with public schools offerring virtual academies, and other "draw them in" devices. No thanks!

Regards
8 posted on 09/08/2003 8:39:07 AM PDT by Missus (We're not trying to overpopulate the world, we're just trying to outnumber the idiots.)
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To: StarCMC
According to The Chronicle of Higher Education, "College officials worry that lobbyists for homeschoolers will persuade Republicans in Congress and the Bush administration to require colleges to admit students who may not be adequately prepared, exposing the institution to lawsuits if they refuse to enroll them. These officials point to a letter that the Home School Legal Defense Association, a national lobbying group, sent to financial-aid administrators and admissions officers on the heels of the Education Department's notice. The letter stated that requiring home-schooled students to take extra tests to qualify for admission is 'considered discriminatory.' The letter demanded that 'all the barriers for home-schoolers seeking admission and financial aid must immediately be disregarded and revoked from the policy of your university.'" ("A Growing Force: In fight for federal student aid, home-school lobby has powerful friends," January 17, 2003, p. A19 ff.)

This part confused me, why would you object to homeschoolers having to take a test before they enter college?

I know quite a few homeschooled kids that are in college now (my 15 year old being one of them). They don't have a diploma, haven't graduated from high school, but they did pass the College Placement Test, so they are allowed to take classes and tuition is free under our dual enrollment program which is available to all 10-12 graders.

How can anybody get into college without taking some sort of placement test even if you do have a diploma.

Doesn't every student have to take a test of some sort to enter college, and why are they objecting to homeschoolers having to take such a test?

9 posted on 09/08/2003 8:45:41 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: .30Carbine
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10 posted on 09/08/2003 8:53:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Regime change in the Courts. - Impeach Activist Judges!)
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To: StarCMC
This ALL started because Home Schoolers were rightly annoyed at having to pay 20% increases in already-high property taxes which are being enacted across the nation. So they said "If we are paying taxes, we should get the same resources the schools get". HUGE MISTAKE. Instead, they should have been fighting for EXEMPTIONS to the property taxes themselves.
14 posted on 09/08/2003 9:38:34 AM PDT by montag813
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To: StarCMC
I looked my representative up -- Todd Akin, a homeschooler himself -- and he supports this bill. I sent him an email asking that he take away his support.
18 posted on 09/08/2003 10:12:04 AM PDT by StarCMC (God protect the 969th in Iraq and their Captain, my brother...God protect them all!)
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To: ladylib
Ping!
23 posted on 09/08/2003 3:36:10 PM PDT by Kuksool (Good citizens make politicians earn their votes)
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To: StarCMC; Missus; 2Jedismom; Nephi; ibheath; Domestic Church; Tax-chick; All
http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/wlcm_HEM.html

Above is the website for the Home Education Magazine. Consider the source for this article. The are very anti-HSLDA, denying that the HSLDA has done any good, or has any valid purpose.

One point: the "Satisfaction of seondary education standards" was not for ALL homeshoolers, just for entry into (government funded) colleges, or for (government funded) financial aid. If you do not want their standards, don't go to their schools on their money.

There are many obfuscations of this type in this article and in most / all that I have read from this source.

34 posted on 09/09/2003 8:41:56 AM PDT by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: StarCMC
bump for later read
35 posted on 09/09/2003 8:50:31 AM PDT by irgbar-man (It's Really Gonna Be AllRight.)
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