CA: A license to flout the rule of law

OCRegister.com ^ | 9/7/03 | Op/Ed

[NormsRevenge]

The Democrats who control the state Legislature, including Orange County Sen. Joe Dunn of Santa Ana, and Gov. Gray Davis believe that people who break the nation's immigration laws should be entitled to a state driver's license.

What are they thinking in this post-9/11 era?

[NormsRevenge]

What are they thinking in this post-9/11 era?

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What, indeed, are they thinking 8-?

Ask Peter Ueberroth that, too!

[NormsRevenge]

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[Eala]

AB 60, then, raises a voter fraud question.

Which could make the next round of federal elections interesting...

[doc]

9/11 is a side issue. The real issue is these people are here illegally, committing a felony and should be deported. When you use the 9/11 issue some will state that if these illegals are not deemed to be a terrorist threat that they can then stay in the US.

[chuckwalla]

The ultra left liberal demo's running ca believe 9/11 to be an invention of W to get the war vote. So they must get the immigrant vote any way they can. As long as they retain power everything they do is fine. Laws to them are simply a way to control their opponents.
The new totalitarians.

[Blockbusta]

There are so many lies and misleading statements in this article. First off, they claim that this is creating a sort-of citizen taking advantage of rights designed for citizens. I notice they forgot to mention that it used to be completely legal for illegals to get a drivers license in California. All they are doing is bringing back an old law. So designed for the citizens is a outright lie. They purposely leave out that info though.


Arnold is trully an Idiot with his statement. That would be like Slaves complaining that they had to be slaves while now the next generation is free. He should be happy for his Immigrants that are making a change. Not crying because he had to go through it before the change.


The voter fraud is a stupid claim. First off, it is assuming illegals are going to commit fraud as well. Not only that but with or without SB60 they could commit fraud if they wanted to anyway. Look at the voter fraud in florida. They have no sb60.

The other lie about them not wanting/getting insurance is a sham. You think illegals want to have to be forced to ditch their crappy car if they get into an accident because of fear of being deported? You think they want to look for a whole new cheap car that can take them to and from work? This makes no sense. It is in their best interest to get insurance.

[Tom Jefferson]

I agree. I think that it is to the benefit of the Democrats to encourage a large illegal alien population, that they can then get registered to vote. That population would naturally support the Democrats. I think there ought to be a proof of citizenship required for anyone who is registered to vote before he is handed a ballot.

As an aside, I also think there should be a concerted effort to round up and deport aliens who are here illegally.

[chuckwalla]

The misleading disconnect is in your brain.
When was it legal for illegals to get a license and why was it changed. Just because something used to be legal if it was does not mean it should be again. Beisdes legal drivers from other countries can drive here on their own countries drivers license. If they have one.
The so called slaves have come here at their own risk. Or would you please tell us who forced them to walk across the border and stand on street corners waiting for work? Are you saying that those who follow immigration laws are slaves?
Slaves to law? You sound like a democrat who feels you can completely disregard laws you don't like.
Yeah they only broke one law coming here ans staying here right? After that they are completely law abiding?
The voter fraud in Fla was by the democrat party which is why the supreme court stopped the ilegal nonsense. The fraud was in the counting not the voting. "it's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." Brilliantly said by none other than Josef Stalin.
They can get insurance anytime they want. I do when I go to Mexico. They are law breakers trying to scam our freedoms for themselves.

[Eala]

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

All they are doing is bringing back an old law.

Can you explain, please? What law was this that made it legal for an illegal to get a driver's license?

[FITZ]

As Sen. Dick Ackerman, R-Irvine, pointed out, the DMV form for getting a driver's license also has an application on the other side to register to vote. AB 60, then, raises a voter fraud question.

All of California's electoral votes should be thrown out in national elections until they get a system that ensures only US citizens are voting. Bush should take on election fraud and beat Davis and Bustamante at their own game.

[norton]

Prior to the open invasion, twenty or so years back, there was less thought given to who got a license in California. You passed a test, often after several tries, and provided some proof of your identity.
The law was changed BECAUSE of the high damages/costs of illegals and because of the ability to create a new identity without stiffer controls.
This latest absurdity not only returns us to those free and easy days, with motor voting and California's terribly lax registration and voting procedures, it guarantees mega-thousands of democrat votes in the next election.
It will not be in effect for the recall and with luck it will be thrown out before doing too much damage in the next round.

PS: So far, the only thing I like about Arnold aside from his much higher name recognition is the fact that he will openly discuss legal (waited 15 years) versus illegal (mind if I have my baby in your waiting room?) immigration.

[EGPWS]

What are they thinking in this post-9/11 era?

Is THIS a trick question?

VOTES and POWER AT ANY COST!!!! Of course.

[woodyinscc]

pAB 60, then, raises a voter fraud question.

You would think that the legislaters would have made the DMV designate on the license whether the holder was a citizen. I do not think it would be unconstitutional, as the courts have already ruled that driving is a priviledge, and not a right.

The dims must have more then a claimed safety agenda, do you not think?<sarcasm

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

I don't think Kalifornia has a legal right to do this as this act violates FEDERAL LAW!

[ArmstedFragg]

the courts have already ruled that driving is a priviledge, and not a right.

Obviously the courts haven't considered Governor Davis's newly discovered "right to drive to work" which he articulated during the bill signing Friday.

[chuckwalla]

Yeah, the right to keep and bear arms is now the right to drive to work for anyone.
Obviously their idea of "the people" is only those who vote for them.
If the illegals wanted assault weapons then they would have anything they wanted with no documentation.

[woodyinscc]

This issue will be settled in the courts.

It will get settled with a referendum. By the time it gets to SCOTUS, too much harm will have been done. Do you seriously think the 9th circuit will overturn this? LOL!!

The freight payers in this state are outraged, and the close to 400,000 signatures needed, will be had in record time. I hope this illegal law never sees the light of day.

[freedumb2003]

The voter fraud is a stupid claim. First off, it is assuming illegals are going to commit fraud as well. Not only that but with or without SB60 they could commit fraud if they wanted to anyway. Look at the voter fraud in florida. They have no sb60.

Nice for a troll to point out the illegal electorate in Fla. I didn't think any of you would ever admit it. Can you also do something about Loretta Sanchez?? Just because people CAN commit fraud, it doesn't mean we should ENABLE and INVITE comitting fraud.

The other lie about them not wanting/getting insurance is a sham. You think illegals want to have to be forced to ditch their crappy car if they get into an accident because of fear of being deported? You think they want to look for a whole new cheap car that can take them to and from work? This makes no sense. It is in their best interest to get insurance.

This is one of the stupidest things I have ever read in FR (but it is par for the course for DU). They are NOT going to get insurance under any circumstance. In fact, now they have a "valid" license, they KNOW they won't get deported since they will be "legal." They might get a FINE for being without insurance, but they won't be DEPORTED. The current situation calls for deportation.

Therefore they are LESS LIKELY to get insurance under SB 60.

And don't tell me they are "law abiding." They have already committed a felony by being here. Our laws are toilet papetr as far as they are concerned.

Damn Troll!

[chuckwalla]

Actually I think the plan was to have the recall postponed until March while passing out hundreds of thousands of dl's with voitng privelages starting in January and overwelm legal Californians with anti-recall votes.
The dems will let nothing stand in their way.
They do not follow laws the rest of have to unless they are forced to. Judges are the key to power longevity. Hitler knew and employed this.