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Almost Two Years After They Were Defeated, Thousands Join The Talibans New Jihad
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-7-2003 | Massoud Ansari

Posted on 09/06/2003 5:57:12 PM PDT by blam

Almost two years after they were defeated, thousands join the Taliban's new jihad

(Filed: 07/09/2003)

Massoud Ansari travels with militia fighters around the Kandahar region of Afghanistan

They are known as the Sarbaz - those who care nothing for their own lives - and they represent one of the greatest threats to the government of Mohammed Karzai and the international forces seeking to bring stability to the shattered country of Afghanistan.

The Taliban, supposedly vanquished in December 2001 when American and Northern Alliance forces drove them from power, are reviving and fighting back across southern Afghanistan.

Siddiqullah is one of many hundreds - possibly thousands - of young men who have been recruited to the Taliban to join their guerrilla war against government and allied forces. At 24 and recently engaged, he has put his life on hold to wage a holy war on "infidel" forces occupying his country.

"My parents insisted that I wait for a while and get married, but I told them that my first and last commitment is jihad and I don't want to make any other commitment at this stage," he said.

Siddiqullah is involved in the increasing number of hit-and-run attacks against government and American troops, moving from village to village through the bleak mountains of this rugged region, sometimes spending days travelling on foot through the desert.

"Jihad is now ordained for all of us," said Siddiqullah, and it seems that many young men agree with him. Students from religious seminaries across the border in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan have joined the war within Afghanistan, and are ready to take part in suicide missions.

Members of the Taliban say that their renewed campaign follows a reorganisation carried out by three regional commanders earlier this year, on the orders of the movement's one-eyed spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar - who, along with Osama bin Laden, remains at large.

Responding to the call, Mullah Dadullah Kakar, a one-legged veteran of the war against the Russians, and Maulvi Sadiq Hameed travelled to the Madrassas, or religious schools, in Baluchistan, to recruit students.

The third Taliban commander, Hafiz Majeed, garnered support from the tribal chieftains and elders in southern Afghanistan.

Dadullah has fought the allies ever since the Taliban regime was driven from Kabul, Kandahar and Afghanistan's other main cities. As one of Mullah Omar's most trusted lieutenants, he escaped to Pakistan, where he was sheltered by Kakar tribesmen in Baluchistan.

"The tribesman not only gave him shelter but also bought him a Land Cruiser and gave him huge amounts of money," said a Taliban fighter. Later, when they realised that he might be arrested in Baluchistan, the tribesmen moved Dadullah to a house in part of Karachi - Pakistan's biggest city - which is dominated by affluent Pathan businessmen.

Subsequently Dadullah, accompanied by religious scholars from Afghanistan, visited dozens of religious schools in Pakistan's tribal areas to lecture students and deliver instructions on jihad from Mullah Omar.

While hundreds have already joined the fight, Taliban leaders claim that many more religious students from Pakistan are ready to go.

In the past 15 days alone, about 150 people - including Afghan troops, policemen and civilians - have been killed in southern Afghanistan. The most significant attack came when 400 Taliban militia reportedly captured one of the districts of Zabul province for a few hours, killing 29 government soldiers and even hoisting a Taliban flag. They used the loudspeakers of mosques to warn residents not to co-operate with United States forces or the government.

The Taliban are drawing on support from Pathans, who complain that they are under-represented in the government compared with the ethnic Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks who have taken many of the senior jobs in the police force, army and administration.

Meanwhile, many traders, already compelled to pay extortion money to Northern Alliance warlords, subsequently lost their businesses to the looters who roam Afghanistan's highways. Those who resisted were killed.

The scarcity of reconstruction work in Afghanistan's southern regions, where people lack healthcare, education or even wells for drinking water, has boosted the Taliban's recruitment drive. Mohammed Hasan, a villager in a remote valley near the Pakistan border, said: "We supported the coalition because we thought that they would change our life, but so far nothing has changed."

Many areas of the south still look as they did under Taliban rule: men wear black turbans, women cover themselves from head to toe, and there are no cinemas or television sets. With only 15,000 American troops in the whole of Afghanistan, it is impossible for them to keep an eye on every single movement.

Mohammed Amin, a 30-year-old leading a group of Taliban in the Pashmol district of Kandahar province, said hundreds of tribesmen were acting as the eyes and ears for the movement, supplying information on the movement of government forces. Some of the volunteers children were as young as 12.

Meanwhile, he boasted, Taliban fighters had managed to join the Afghan government army, where they acted as spies and saboteurs. "They either confide to us information about the plans movement of Afghan US troops, or they attack these troops and kill them."

Taliban fighters go to great lengths to avoid detection, moving in small groups of 20 or fewer, emerging from hideouts after dark to lie in wait for government patrols, or to launch ambushes on army outposts while troops sleep.

Most of the communication is through hand-written notes, although local commanders also use satellite telephones and radios.

Amin showed me a handwritten letter bearing the signature of Mullah Omar, urging his men to fight and free the people from the "slavery of the infidel US".

However, the Taliban fighters say they do not intend trying to regain control of the whole of Afghanistan in the near future. "We've the strength, guts and force to take even Kabul any time, but we know our limitations and we wouldn't be able to sustain that control," said 28-year-old Habibullah, a recent recruit to the militia from the refugee camps in Pakistan.

"We don't have the technology to withstand B-52 air strikes. What we are trying to do is inflict maximum damage to the US troops and their allies so that they get fed up and leave our country.

"We know that won't be soon but we also know that they will get fed up eventually. Look at what our long resistance did to the Russians."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; defeated; jihad; southasia; southasialist; taliban; talibanlist; talibans; thousands
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To: risk
India wants to help us with the problem? I agree with that, but it's not totally selfless love they're showing. They face a serious threat from the slamofascists and SO DO WE. Hence we are natural allies, we face the same nme. The cold war is dead and the only thing dividing us are slammies or slammi apologists like The Bad Prophet (PSS be upon him).

I distrusted the Indians until '91 but now they need us and that makes for the best kind of allies, mutual self-dependence and mutual respect.
81 posted on 09/08/2003 1:21:15 PM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: Cronos
Agreed. We can't expect India to be "selfless" in their support of us until we've crushed Islamic nationalist imperialism together. In any case, we don't have to share nuclear technology, or give away our ABM secrets to cooperate. It might be useful to negotiate about their weapons suppliers, however. It remains a concern that they continue going to Russia, but as some have said, what is a threatened Democracy going to do when the west is leaving it out of NATO and there isn't yet an analog for NATO in asia (Japan should be the hub of it were it to materialize). India belongs in the inner circle of the Anglospheric alliance, but has too much baggage to be invited, or to even desire such a thing. Maybe that will change in the future. Meawhile, it's trust but verify.
82 posted on 09/08/2003 1:29:47 PM PDT by risk
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To: swarthyguy; TBP
your point about The Bad Prophet being a loonie moonie worshipper seems to have some points.

To TBP, your points are wrong: India VOTED, (past tense) against us, quite often. I notice they were very quiet during GW2 when GER, FRA and PAK were leading an anti-USjishad.

India needs oil and is more dependent on it than we are. It's better to buy oil from a secular govt rather than the Mekkkaloonies in SA.

Selling heavy water versus the Packes selling nukes to the NKs, which is worse?

India was a long time ally of the Soviet Union because Nixon support the pakloons and the chicoms and pushed them into it. Who cares if they made a treaty with the Soviet Union. unless one's been asleep for the past 15 years, one would have noticed that THE SOVIET UNION doesn't exist anymore.

Did they oppose our war agains the Talibs?? Hmmmm....... NO, they were the first to offer troops. Did they oppose us supporting the Mujahideena nd the talibs in the first place? H***, yeah, and they were right, we shouldn't have, we were lightin a fire that would burn us.

The news item you quote sounds suspiciously like some paknews porpaganda, because it's so hilariously funny, like some James bond flick where the big villians meet in some obscure locale all to plot the destruction of the free world using camel dung and slam (not that there is much difference between the two, no wait, camel dung has some positve use, unlike the moon cult which has none.)

As Risk says, we ought to form a renewed SEATO with true democracies there, lead by Japan, Australia, New Zealand and India.
83 posted on 09/08/2003 1:33:45 PM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: Cronos
Suicide-by-infidel sounds good to me.
84 posted on 09/08/2003 1:46:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: TBP
Let's be fair here. The ruling parties in India today are essentially Rightist and far more pro Western than any previous leadership since WW-II. India had been in the Soviet camp and by extension on friendly terms with satellite and rogue states. The essential question is, now that India has a regime capable of being a Western ally, do we miss the opportunity to move India away from rogues and Soviet hangers on, or do we ignore this obvious window of opportunity and end up with India back in the Leftist / anti American camp? Meanwhile, the PLA bootlickers run Islamabad. Are you in favor of us continuing faux friendship with PLA bootlickers? For that matter, what is your stance vis a vis the PRC?
85 posted on 09/08/2003 3:57:06 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
Let's be fair here. The ruling parties in India today are essentially Rightist and far more pro Western than any previous leadership since WW-II.

Actually, it is their Defense Minister who organized the meeting to set up a security alliance "to stop the U.S."

They are the ones who have refused to cooperate with the war on terror.

They have sold oil to Saddam, calling Iraq "a strategic partner."

BTW, the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is the political arm of the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS), which was formed in support of Fascism. The RSS, which has engaged in many acts of violence to enforce a total Hindu domination of the politics, society, and culture, is the parent organization of the BJP.

In March 2000, Prime Minister Vajpayee told an audience in New York, "I will always be a Swayamsewak." Indian cabinet members have been quoted as saying that Pakistan should be absorbed into India and that everyone who lives in India must either be a Hindu or be subservient to Hindus. This is the same kind fo religious tyranny that we overthrew in Afghanistan and arguably in Iraq.

That is why there are 17 freedom movements within India's borders.

And according to the Washington Times of January 2, 2002, India is sponsoring cross-border terrorism in Sindh.

86 posted on 09/08/2003 8:51:40 PM PDT by TBP
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To: blam
Can we convince them that going "gobble gobble gobble" is the supreme insult to Americans?
87 posted on 09/08/2003 9:05:39 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Jeff Head
Dead men walking...the problem with these fanatics but to their credit is that they truly believe in their cause, the fallacy is that their cause is not just, they have been misled and now will be missile'd…
88 posted on 09/08/2003 9:43:23 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: WOSG; risk
I believe the Paki's supported the taliban against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan...to prevent the Soviets from entering Pakistan and obtaining a ocean port...long before the taliban turned into a bunch of buggering fascists...
89 posted on 09/08/2003 9:56:54 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: in the Arena; WOSG; Chronos; swarthyguy; Jeff Head; belmont_mark
...the Paki's supported the taliban against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Yes, this is less recent history. The CIA worked with the Pakis to make this a reality

Some background on the CIA and the ISI:
9/12/2001 -- Ottawa Centre for Research on Globalisation: Who is Bin Laden?"

More recent info on the ISI:
9/2/2003 -- Probe Musharraf for Taliban Ties, says Opp
4/2002 -- Jihad Unspun: The ISI

90 posted on 09/09/2003 12:24:10 AM PDT by risk
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To: TBP; in the Arena; WOSG; Chronos; swarthyguy; Jeff Head; belmont_mark; blam
Actually, it is their Defense Minister who organized the meeting to set up a security alliance "to stop the U.S."

Yes, and we know about General Kirpal Randhawa, who advised Saddam, at least in the past. But America was advising Saddam then, too. And we know that the Indian lower house passed a resolution against the war. But then again, a large number of American Democrats were against it, too.

They are the ones who have refused to cooperate with the war on terror.

India, I believe, sees a hedge falling as American interests are rekindled in the region. I think this is a resurgence of an old and outdated sentiment toward Anglo interference in their lands. Good diplomacy and shared success will give us a renewed chance to cooperate. It may be that India sees America as being uncooperative, since the State department insists that India accept hundreds of casualties per year to Islamic extremist violence, some of it imported from outside -- and do nothing "while America looks after its interests and India's as well."

the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is the political arm of the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS), which was formed in support of Fascism.

This disturbs me, and should disturb any American patriot, as well as Indians who are students of the European Enlightenment. Hinduism needs a reformation, not a resurgence of religious nationalism. So yes, your concerns are quite valid. Yet I'm sure that Gandhi wouldn't have known what to do with 21st century Islamic religious nationalism, either. We Americans have so little to base any fears on Hinduism, while Islamic terrorism haunts us daily here via reports of attacks on Israel, and our own personal recollections of the Khobar towers, the WTC, and the Marine barracks bombing in October of 1983.

And according to the Washington Times of January 2, 2002, India is sponsoring cross-border terrorism in Sindh.

Yes, and some of your strongest criticisms are also found in NewsMax: Terrorism and the Indian Govt. and InfoTimes: BUSH MUST DECLARE INDIA A MAFIA STATE. It's interesting to note that Burton has received donations from Council of Khalistan. He has also been rumored to have sought campaign funds from Pakistani president Benazir Bhutto in the 1990s. And let's not forget that the Sikh separatist movement is what brought down Canadian Air flight 182 in 1985. It's a tricky region, isn't it?

This is the same kind fo religious tyranny that we overthrew in Afghanistan and arguably in Iraq.

You have no argument from me there. But there's a big difference: the Hindu nationalists are not comandeering Boeing airliners to ram through my Pentagon, my WTC, and into the cold hard ground in Pennsylvania. I stand against the Caste system, and I have no appreciation of Hinduism other than through basic history. Also, I refuse to ignore the Marxist and fascist tendencies afoot within India's borders. These forces are a different type of threat than the madrasses in Pakistan, churning out hateful youth turned against America and Israel. Until now, they have had one thing in common: a deep resentment of the idea that all things western are superior to south asian culture. But while Indians try to figure out that they belong with England and America in the trend toward a modern, democratic and capitalist globalism, Pakistan is close to rejecting it permanently in favor of a uniqely Islamic future.

The west is willing to share the east with other religions. Perhaps Hindus are willing to share with the west. But what about Islam? In Pakistan, the answer is increasingly "no." Can we afford to pretend any longer that the trend is in our favor with the Islamic bomb waiting to be unleashed on Israel or Los Angeles? I can at least ask that my government take steps.

91 posted on 09/09/2003 1:15:30 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk
India is a paradox because of all of the things you say.

In the book series I am writing, the Dragon's Fury Series, the worst of all scenarios develop.

India and China mend their fences to the point of joining a mutual economic alliance, working together in outsourcing to the United States and working with Russia to unilaterally supply the manpower to exploit Siberia in full.

China, behind it all, works with radical Islamic factions to foster and support the rise of a very popular and powerful Islamic leader in Iran, who is recognized by both Sunni and Sh'ia clerics as the Mahdi and begins uniting Islam.

The Chinese, using pilfered American technology and using advances of their own, develops surprising military technology suitable to employ against the US, and particularly against the US 7th fleet.

In the end, the result is China and India joined in an unholly alliance, with Islam opening the first major front against us. When the west is fully extended there, the N. Koreans attack the South and when we attempt to respond, the Chinese, while appearing to try and mediate, ambush our large naval task force that is going to the relief of S. Korea...and they employ assymetrical warfare to the max in also attacking the US mainland at the same time. The result is World War.

Is is fictional...but (if you consider the Nazi-Soviet alliance of the early WW II years), stranger things have happened.

92 posted on 09/09/2003 6:18:46 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: TBP
Actually, it is their Defense Minister who organized the meeting to set up a security alliance "to stop the U.S." They are the ones who have refused to cooperate with the war on terror. They have sold oil to Saddam, calling Iraq "a strategic partner."

That's ripped off the funniest site on the web: paknews.com a.k.a. such_stupid_lies_you wonder_what_morons_believe_them_and what _bigger_morons_write_them.com

And if so, I can say:
1. The supervillian type meeting between Cuba, NK (who btw got nuke from our allies the Packs) etc. did not occur.
2. The other TRUTHS you put forth are equally laughable:
India was among the first to support hte WoT, simple, because it's in their interests to do so. A convergence of interests is a good thing for allies.
INDIA sold oil TO Saddam?? Huh? Where did india get the oil from? So, you mean to say, that India bought oil from some other Gulf state and sold it to Irq? And why did irQ buy oil when it's got the secodn largest reserves in the world after SA?
in a country with so much diversity and poverty (which they are getting out of) I only expect freedom movements, especially if they're sponsored by neighbours.
Sinned?
93 posted on 09/09/2003 6:22:22 AM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: Jeff Head
That scenario is not possible. India still mistrusts China after they were stabbed in the back in the 60s by the chicoms. And India would never make an ally with TWO nearby enemies;; the chicoms and slamofascists. Furthermore, Persia is getting liberated from the yoke of slam NOW.
94 posted on 09/09/2003 6:54:50 AM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: blam


F***ing savages. Don't these people ever give up?
95 posted on 09/09/2003 6:59:41 AM PDT by GunnyHartman
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To: blam
You know the nice thing about killing these bastards on their own soil? We don't have to eat the costs of body bags for the turds... just dump em in a ditch and let the dogs take care of them.

And I'd make sure every bullet in my clip was coated in bacon fat, just for good measure.
96 posted on 09/09/2003 7:13:43 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Cronos
Yea, yea...not possible...like I said, stranger things have happened. No one, and I mean no one, thought the Nazis and Soviets would get in bed together either in the early days of WW II...but they did.

I've spent considerable time in India, I will admit thatit is unlikely, but (as risk described) there are forces within India that would move towards economic alliances of the sort I describe if they materialized and were to their advantage. Economic alliances have a way of turning into military alliances under the right conditions. The novels describe a fictional occurance of just that.

As to Iran being liberated...I hope and pray that that is what occurs in reality. It needs to occur. But, the Islamic people are looking for a Mahdi to unite them...even many of those wanting to throw off the current corrupt mullahs. If the right person came along...there'd be hell to pay.

As it is...and as I have already stated on this thread...I hope that while we are in the neighborhood, that the Iranian people do rise up and seek our help...and that we give it.

Fregards.

97 posted on 09/09/2003 7:24:20 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
I also hope that our govt makes more overtures to stop any of the alliances you fear (you are correct in the assumption that economic necessities may draw two seemingly opposing countries together). We need to draw India closer in partnership with us and the signs are encouraging in that regard. We also need to send overtures to Russia and hope they forgive us (or rather Clintack) for ignoring them during the 90s.
98 posted on 09/09/2003 8:34:08 AM PDT by Cronos ('slam and sanity don't mix, ask your Imam.....)
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To: Cronos
We need to draw India closer in partnership with us and the signs are encouraging in that regard.

Amen to that. We could start be treating Pakistan for what they are insted of driving the Indians the other way their...and for encouraging continuing reform within India to the left overs of the caste system...it's still there, I saw it everyday working with companies for quite some time.

I hope we will do those things and make of India a true ally, instead of ignoring them or leaving them uncertain and thus opening the door others to take advantage.

99 posted on 09/09/2003 8:40:02 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
The same anti nationalist globalist types who drive corporatist couplings between ourselves and the PRC also exist in India.
100 posted on 09/09/2003 9:00:31 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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