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To: muir_redwoods
This was once a very libertarian nation consisting of loosely federated states able to act independently in most things and collectively for things like free trade and national defence.

Ahh, another government "educated" person. If you were to read anything before the revisionists got around to changing it, you would note that the North imposed tariffs on imported factory goods, and our European trade partners responded by slapping massive tariffs on agricultural goods. This allowed the North to have high wages and even cheaper cotton and corn while the South had to pay maximum prices for machinery (which would have replaced slaves) and received minimum income for their products. Last time I checked, tariffs are anathema to Libertarianism (which is Libertarian consistancy since our country's forefathers believed that tariffs were the least immoral tax.)

Interestingly, the Libertarian ideal is sort of like the North's attitude towards the South. Impose virtual tariffs on the manufacturing and IT through massive domestic taxes, obscene regulation, and rabid tort lawyers - then eliminate tariffs on the foreigners through subsidies, tax grants, free insurance, and cheap and plentiful education to foreigners. This makes the "Takers" (Libs) the North, and the Producers the "South". The Libs laud about inexpensive goods and laugh at the "Southerners" income problems.

9 posted on 09/06/2003 10:14:10 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: Dr Warmoose
You usually have such interesting and informative posts. Too bad you can't ever post without being obnoxious and condensending.
19 posted on 09/06/2003 1:47:37 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: Dr Warmoose
Dear "Doctor"

Everyone already knows you don't understand what you're talking about. You can stop demonstrating it so capably. We understand and usually ignore you. I'll bet you're getting used to it.
61 posted on 09/07/2003 1:06:45 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Dr Warmoose
"while the South had to pay maximum prices for machinery (which would have replaced slaves) and received minimum income for their products."

Excuse me, but exactly what machinery in 1860 would have replaced slaves and if tariffs depressed the price of cotton, why exactly was the price of cotton in 1860 at all time highs? In fact, the Confederate strategy to gain European recognition was a self-imposed cotton embargo which they diluded themselves into thinking would force England and France into recognizing them.

Did England and France impose duties on cotton?

173 posted on 09/10/2003 7:47:53 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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