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Poll Names McClintock as Winner of the Debate
Sacramento T.V. Station KXTV ^ | 9/4/2003 | SurveyUSA

Posted on 09/05/2003 3:07:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp

Poll Names McClintock as Winner of the Debate

State Senator Tom McClintock came out on top in a poll that gauged public reaction to Wednesday's candidate debate.

A News10/SurveyUSA poll found that 30 percent of California voters felt McClintock won the debate. Twenty-two percent of those questioned said Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante was number one, while 12 percent named Peter Ueberroth as the winner. Arianna Huffington was favored by nine percent of those surveyed, while three percent said Peter Camejo won.

As evidence that the election is still very much up for grabs, the survey found 24 percent of voters either undecided about the winner of the debate or with no favorite.

The poll showed that Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision to skip the debate may have been costly. Fifty-five percent of voters felt it was the wrong thing to do, while 37 percent approved of the actor's absence. Eight percent had no opinion.

According to the survey, Gov. Gray Davis' half-hour appearance prior to the debate may not have improved his chances of avoiding recall. About a third of those surveyed, 36 percent, said the question-and-answer session caused their opinion of Davis to fall. Seventeen percent came away from the telecast with a better impression of the governor, while 46 percent said their opinion was unchanged.

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The poll questioned 1,444 registered California voters in the hours immediately following the debate. Margin of error for the survey is %.1 percent.

Story last updated Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 5:38 PM


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: governor; mcjeffords; statesman; winner
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To: BonnieJ
To be fair, it wasn't truly a "push poll" (an opinion poll where the questioner is trying to illicit a certain response). The LA Times just added 125 hispanics to its normal poll, for no good reason. So the results were skewed.
181 posted on 09/06/2003 1:16:10 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: polyiguana
Oh gawd, yes, the ballots must be "fair." FGS! What crap.
182 posted on 09/06/2003 1:17:17 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
Wow, there's some gorgeous big ol' houses up there.

Our movie theaters down here now have several mainstream movies showing in Spanish only...haven't gotten used to that yet.

I love the Mexican families around us...super clean with well-behaved kids, but they're LEGAL. Huge diff.

Hilltop schools, once superb, are worse than lousy now. Bonita's better, Coronado OK. Our kids went to both.
183 posted on 09/06/2003 1:23:21 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady
The LEGALS are fluent in English. The two houses near me are full of Spanish-speaking people with Mexico license plates on their cars.
184 posted on 09/06/2003 1:31:19 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
Do they play loud music?
185 posted on 09/06/2003 1:36:20 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady
Do they play loud music?

Fortunately, I am three streets west of both of the houses they occupy and I've not heard their music! From what I've heard (neighborhood gossip) they are quiet, which leads the immediate neighbors to suspect they're dealing drugs. LOL!

186 posted on 09/06/2003 1:41:31 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
>>> dealing drugs <<<

Golly...it's impossible to tell these days.
Some of the cleanest cut kids you ever saw over in white-bread Coronado are dealers.

Well..it's hasta la nite nite for me!

(We now return this thread to it's regularly scheduled topic)
187 posted on 09/06/2003 1:50:57 AM PDT by b9
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To: Theodore R.
I can't afford to live in CA and don't much understand how people other than Aaron Spelling and his friends can do so

You have nailed what made the recall so popular in this heavly liberal state. Its like the old joke about what you call a Democrat who got mugged last night...a Republican.

188 posted on 09/06/2003 2:18:52 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Princeliberty
Democrats could be done in by the stupidity of their base.

And if their base is so stupid it doesn't even know how to vote correctly what does that tell you?!

Alright, I bet you think this is pretty funny...but its not. The Democrats have a really unfair situation that has reached crisis...no epidemic proportions. How to dumb down the public enough to vote for Democrats without dumbing them so far down they can't figure out how.

189 posted on 09/06/2003 2:33:44 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Princeliberty
Arnold support will completely collapse into single digits prehaps even below 5%.

Although I agree tha if Tom starts making a stronger showing, that the conservatives (myself included) will start switching from Arnold to Tom...

...but Arnold down to 5%? Come on, he will get a lot more then that from just the cross over Democrats.

190 posted on 09/06/2003 2:42:23 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Doc On The Bay
Nope the real race between the consertive McClintock
and the racist socialist Cruz.

Arnold campaign sinking fast.
191 posted on 09/06/2003 4:42:28 AM PDT by Princeliberty
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To: SierraWasp

Excellent!

192 posted on 09/06/2003 7:55:07 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: SierraWasp
I said it the night of the debate, and I'll say it again: McClintock said SO much that was accurate and right on...he had a problem, though, in that he didn't project a POSITIVE attitude. I don't think I saw him smile ONCE; I really wish he'd project a Reaganesque "We can be better!" 'posittude' that'll attract more voters!

He's a great guy, that is obvious to those of us who follow the issues. He needs to reach the average Joe and Jan SixPack who don't...and I believe they respond to a happy, self-assured person.

rd.

193 posted on 09/06/2003 7:57:53 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Yes, he needs a debate coach who understands theatrics! And fast!!!

However... As one who has experienced the everyday disheartening experience of being an elected and having to sit through endless hours of meetings with negative bureaucrats AND even negative constituents with nothing but liberal bullchit on their lips... it can subconsciously destroy your good "posittude," dude!!!

You get so outraged, day after day and are constantly wondering why the rational conservative base that supported you in the election campaign don't show up during the dreary proceedings of the process. So, you go out and make a speech to try to "wake them up" by describing the outrageous reality and all that happens is that you discourage them, instead.

You are coached to "keep telling 'em how great things are going to be if they elect/re-elect you" and all the while, you know you aren't Bill Clinton and honestly have a hard time throwing that "smile switch" back on through compartmentalism. But you must!!!

If you don't, you're just throwing the "Oh Chit" switch in people's minds and it works against you, BIG TIME!!!

Niaevety(sp) can be a huge help the first time you run for office. Experience can be a killer to being a good campaigner, unless you're a good actor and constantly remember theatric techniques and to use them to win.

Knowing the truth of the situation can really fatigue a person and is intensely hard to conceal from the voters. Just ask George Herbert Walker Bush about how he kept looking at his watch in his debate with Perot and Clinton!!!

Little things mean a lot, especially when you're under the pressure of TV cameras and even the people conducting the debate are posing loaded, slanted questions.

194 posted on 09/06/2003 8:28:49 AM PDT by SierraWasp (You have to ask yourself... Would you hire anybody from CA's government to fix anything?(besides Tom)
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To: onyx
Well, howdy back atcha! How odd that our ballots differ. Same County.

I believe that they're based on congressional districts.

195 posted on 09/06/2003 9:57:15 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: Bob; tubebender; heleny; ambrose
Lungren and the CA Rep county committees have been vindicated. It turns out the organization they contributed to is a PRO Recall committee. Whew! My faith is restored.

Now, about that Hellman thing. That is something to watch. Hopefully it will be posted on the SOS website next week.

I'm still not sure what the pro Davis committees are doing. It appears money is being shuffled between three committees. Someone who is better than I am at sorting this kind of thing out may be able to make sense out of it.
197 posted on 09/06/2003 2:05:11 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Vote McClintock - He's the REAL thing!)
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To: FairOpinion
of the 1444 registered voters interviewed 388 watched the debate, which translates to a little less than 27%, IOW 73% of the registered voters did NOT watch the debate.

True, but there's a good chance a minority of registered voters will actually vote. So it's very possible that these 27% represent the majority of likely voters.

198 posted on 09/06/2003 2:22:43 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: SierraWasp
So... All of a sudden, when what Tom's been yelling at the top of his non-amplified (acoustic is all conservatives ever git) lungs suddenly starts happening... And somebody actually funds a Recall qualification effort and people who have to be paid start gathering signatures because all the volunteers are down in the city shopping at Nordstrom's instead...

That's exactly the point. Tom didn't get anything done. He's not been able to do anything in his official position, and he didn't do anything to get the recall.
Arnold is right - what the state needs is leadership. Issa showed more leadership that Tom ever has. A leader needs some charisma and some drive. Tom doesn't have it, and he downplays the importance.

199 posted on 09/06/2003 2:37:59 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: Nac Mac Feegle; ElkGroveDan; ScottinSacto
"I don' give a flyin' "eff""

Well, boy don't ever throw one of them flyin "eff's," cause they're a boomerang, buddy! Out here the D's have cluster "eff's" in their governing technique's.

I assume that the expression "eff" is short-hand in your case to mean sincere, hard-working effort, right?

200 posted on 09/06/2003 5:30:28 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You have to ask yourself... Would you hire anybody from CA's government to fix anything?(besides Tom)
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